M7 - Expand while stationary - Is it possible for a unit in combat?

[lionheartrjc]

Since we have been clarifying M4 and M6, here is a query on M7.

Is it possible for a UG already in combat to be prompted to do an M7 action?  It would be only possible if the UG hasn't already made a prompted action this turn (i.e. it cannot have charged).  This would allow a UG to expand a file that would not be a supporting file - which we have decided is not possible with an MF1 move.

There is at least one scenario where being able to expand a file is useful; to prevent an enemy UG getting around the flank.  It doesn't happen often, but as the rules are currently written I cannot find any reason that this move should be forbidden.  It cropped up at Roll Call whilst I was umpiring which is why I have raised it here.

Richard

[Hunter]

Yes, Why not?

HH

[badhabum]

You said prompted move....and if it was a free charge and if it was a mandatory charge ....

[nikgaukroger]

2nd item in clarries - "An UG may only make a single Prompted Action, Free or Forced Charge, Run Away or Skirmish per turn ..."

[badhabum]

Well, the PDF new rule version should be available soon in 2019 

That will help a lot 

[accard]

This prompts me to ask a possibly related question.

Where does it say you can't make any 'M' move in the movement phase to break contact?

Say I am hit in the flank/read during the charge. No better, lets say my opponent is hit in the flank/rear.
I can't see where it says the charged unit can't make, say, an M2 move straight ahead and break contact - presuming it survives.

If someone can direct me to the appropriate rule I would be grateful.

[lionheartrjc]

This prompts me to ask a possibly related question.

Where does it say you can't make any 'M' move in the movement phase to break contact?

Say I am hit in the flank/read during the charge. No better, lets say my opponent is hit in the flank/rear.
I can't see where it says the charged unit can't make, say, an M2 move straight ahead and break contact - presuming it survives.

If someone can direct me to the appropriate rule I would be grateful.

I believe it is implied (by the breakoff moves) but not explicitly stated.  A statement on what M moves are possible to a unit in combat would be desirable.

Richard

[accard]

Yes, I had being playing it as implied, but then when one of my opponents wanted to do an M move in the Movement phase I said he couldn't, but then struggled to justify myself.

[Rino]

Well for movement of unit fighting you have MF move and that's it, right?

[accard]

That's how I had been playing it - but where does it state that?

[nikgaukroger]

It doesn't 

In fact, if you look at Page 49, 3.4 which says which units cannot make prompted actions other than MF1 and MF2 you could possibly imply that you could make other M moves 

[badhabum]

Yes, I had being playing it as implied, but then when one of my opponents wanted to do an M move in the combat phase I said he couldn't, but then struggled to justify myself.

Have a look at the turn sequence. Point 5  Fighting sequence and just follow the sequence. What you may do is clearly listed .

[nikgaukroger]

You can't in the fighting phase, however, the question was originally about the movement phase:

Where does it say you can't make any 'M' move in the movement phase to break contact?

although it has been muddied by references to the fighting phase since (and I think that phase is clear) 

[Rino]

Mud fight!!

[accard]

the muddied reference to combat phase was incorrect - meant movement phase - but with units in combat.