Fully Armoured plus Shield Cover

Started by Hunter, April 30, 2019, 08:01:19 AM

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Hunter

Hi MEG Boffins
Does fully armoured plus shield cover for foot reduced shooting to black dice with slow only results possible?
HH
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RocketSix

yes, cover and armour are in different rows.

Black with slows only (assuming you're starting white)

Hunter

Many thanks - that's what I thought but wanted a second opinion.
Cheers
Hunter
Dishonour before defeat!

marshalney2000

Providing of course you slow your movement to get shield cover.

Simon Meg-Meister

One cannot always read the rules ...  ;)

15. SHIELD COVER
Shield Cover represents troops  with large shields who were able to lock them together for protection against missiles.  The Roman Testudo is the ultimate version, but many troops with large shields could do something similar, and Romans were adept at doing so without forming formal Testudo (which were generally for sieges).
1.   Files may choose to use Shield Cover when shot at in any Shooting Phase - they choose to do so before shooting dice are rolled.  The shooting player must enquire before rolling dice.
2.   Bases that have used Shield Cover this turn may not shoot (unless specified as an exception in the Army Lists); bases behind such a base can shoot normally.
3.   UGs with any bases using Shield Cover suffer a 1BW slowing effect that will affect them in Movement thereafter (place a purple dice as usual to record this). 
4.   Shield Cover increases the target dice armour level by one from Unprotected to Protected, or Protected to Fully Armoured.
5.   Shield Cover cannot be used in the Charge Phase, so such troops will have to take one round of normal shooting as they charge opponents, nor by any base engaged in Combat either frontally or as a Supporting File. 
6.   Shield Cover can be used when shot at from flank or rear.
Rolling Skulls in the land or Purple

Simon Meg-Meister

So SHIELD COVER does not.
FARM in REAL COVER does.

Si
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stuuk

Bit surprised there is anything fully armoured with shield cover - what?..

RocketSix

Doesn't make much sense in the James IV list , where the gentry have it. Do they get any benefit ?

marshalney2000

Yes white goes to black then down again to black minus. Only hits that count are slows.

nikgaukroger

#9
Might be useful to point out that this is because there is a list specific rule of:

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Shield Cover for Fully Armoured pikemen will downgrade shooting dice by one level when shot at frontally. These represent the pavises used in addition to the plate armour.

Shield cover works differently for this list  8)
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Simon Meg-Meister

#11
Ah ok a list specific is fine.

S
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Hunter

Dishonour before defeat!

Simon Meg-Meister

Like it.  Indestructable front ranks until they get close.
I would add though that the special should exclude artillery - not sure it should help much when walking up to cannons from the era.
RJC?  List edit.

S
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lionheartrjc

Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on May 07, 2019, 02:39:30 PM
Like it.  Indestructable front ranks until they get close.
I would add though that the special should exclude artillery - not sure it should help much when walking up to cannons from the era.
RJC?  List edit.

S

Agreed, I cannot think of everything.

Richard