Path of charge

Started by philfigo, May 09, 2023, 10:23:35 AM

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philfigo

Hello
In a recent game, we had 2 interpretations of the path of charge. The diagrams p59 and p69 being subject to questions for several players.
P59 shows that the path of charge continues around and beyond run away or skirmishing troops, which can give a dog leg shape.
P69 shows a path of charge through a sug, with a rectangular shape.
Does the path of charge go through run away or skirmishing troops (tug or sug) or does it have a a cut-out shape by these troops, or even stopped by these troops, like for example a line of skirmishers in front of tugs.
I'm talking about the path of charge, not about the possibility to reach the troops behind those who run away or skirmished.
I hope I am clear enough.

Can you give us a simple official answer understandable by French novices (sorry).

Thank you for your answer.

nikgaukroger

Quote from: philfigo on May 09, 2023, 10:23:35 AM
Hello
In a recent game, we had 2 interpretations of the path of charge. The diagrams p59 and p69 being subject to questions for several players.
P59 shows that the path of charge continues around and beyond run away or skirmishing troops, which can give a dog leg shape.
P69 shows a path of charge through a sug, with a rectangular shape.
Does the path of charge go through run away or skirmishing troops (tug or sug) or does it have a a cut-out shape by these troops, or even stopped by these troops, like for example a line of skirmishers in front of tugs.
I'm talking about the path of charge, not about the possibility to reach the troops behind those who run away or skirmished.
I hope I am clear enough.

Can you give us a simple official answer understandable by French novices (sorry).

Thank you for your answer.


The diagrams are illustrating different things which does lead to this question, and that on page 69 isn't perfect.

The path of charge is as per page 59. It does not pass through enemies who are skirmishing/running away. So if it meets troops doing that you get the "cut out" shape for the path of charge.

Page 69 is illustrating shooting at chargers - but the path of charge should not pass through the right hand Numidian (orange) unit, it should create a "cut out" where the unit overlaps the charge. We missed amending that bit it seems  :P

Hope that helps.
"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."

philfigo

Quote from: nikgaukroger on May 09, 2023, 10:32:56 AM

The diagrams are illustrating different things which does lead to this question, and that on page 69 isn't perfect.

The path of charge is as per page 59. It does not pass through enemies who are skirmishing/running away. So if it meets troops doing that you get the "cut out" shape for the path of charge.

Page 69 is illustrating shooting at chargers - but the path of charge should not pass through the right hand Numidian (orange) unit, it should create a "cut out" where the unit overlaps the charge. We missed amending that bit it seems  :P

Hope that helps.
Thank you, your answer is perfectly clear

nikgaukroger

No problem. Path of Charge is something that generates questions regularly.
"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."

LawrenceG

Quote from: nikgaukroger on May 09, 2023, 01:37:34 PM
No problem. Path of Charge is something that generates questions regularly.

Here's another one that I frequently wonder about:

Does path of charge include any step forward after the line of initial contact with enemy that are standing to receive?

The diagram on p59 suggests not, but it's not explicit.

nikgaukroger

"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."

lionheartrjc

It does not!  (Apparently I have to jump in)!  :-*

nikgaukroger

Jump in and agree with me - I can live with that  8)
"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."