Shoot and charge firing range

Started by Fredericksdownfall, March 15, 2023, 07:08:49 PM

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Wizard of Oz

Thank you both for your detailed and clear response.

badhabum

QuoteYes charge only shooters in files that are charged get to shoot as experienced shooters.  The range is taken to be 1BW and they shoot at the point in the charge phase when other units being charged would shoot.



may the file that has shoot and charge and that is next to the target file shoot as well ?

I hope I am clear enough


lionheartrjc

The file has to be charged, not just the UG.  So no.

Richard

LawrenceG

Quote from: badhabum on May 08, 2023, 01:22:38 PM
may the file that has shoot and charge and that is next to the target file shoot as well ?

I hope I am clear enough

Precision of terminology is important here.

"Charge Only" can only shoot with a file that is being charged.

Missile focussed UGs with "Shoot and Charge" can shoot with any file within 1 BW of the path of charge.

skb777

Sorry, bit late to the party. So if you stand to receive a charge and are outside of the 2 HBW it is assumed you shoot at chargers when they reach the 2HBW range? So basically if you stand to receive a charge you are still use the shoot and charge option even if outside the 2HBW zone?

LawrenceG

Quote from: skb777 on October 30, 2023, 10:11:29 PM
Sorry, bit late to the party. So if you stand to receive a charge and are outside of the 2 HBW it is assumed you shoot at chargers when they reach the 2HBW range? So basically if you stand to receive a charge you are still use the shoot and charge option even if outside the 2HBW zone?

If you stand to receive the charge, you are not using the shoot and charge option. Whether skilled, experienced, unskilled or "charge only", it is assumed you shoot at a range of 1 BW (= 2 HBW); it doesn't matter how far away the charge starts from. It does not matter whether you have "shoot and charge" or not, all shooters can do it.

The "shoot and charge" option is only for when you declare a charge, and you have to start the charge within shooting range to exercise that option. It's available to troops with "shoot and charge" characteristic or "charge only" in their "shooting skill" box.

skb777

Quote from: LawrenceG on October 30, 2023, 11:53:40 PM
Quote from: skb777 on October 30, 2023, 10:11:29 PM
Sorry, bit late to the party. So if you stand to receive a charge and are outside of the 2 HBW it is assumed you shoot at chargers when they reach the 2HBW range? So basically if you stand to receive a charge you are still use the shoot and charge option even if outside the 2HBW zone?

If you stand to receive the charge, you are not using the shoot and charge option. Whether skilled, experienced, unskilled or "charge only", it is assumed you shoot at a range of 1 BW (= 2 HBW); it doesn't matter how far away the charge starts from. It does not matter whether you have "shoot and charge" or not, all shooters can do it.

Righto, so if you stand to receive a charge you can still shoot even if the charge starts outside of the shooting range. You then receive a -1 penalty in the charge phase.

The "shoot and charge" option is only for when you declare a charge, and you have to start the charge within shooting range to exercise that option. It's available to troops with "shoot and charge" characteristic or "charge only" in their "shooting skill" box.

LawrenceG

Quote from: skb777 on October 31, 2023, 12:22:30 AM
Righto, so if you stand to receive a charge you can still shoot even if the charge starts outside of the shooting range. You then receive a -1 penalty in the charge phase.


Yes.

nikgaukroger

Remember that the +1 claim for fighting enemy who shot at you in the charge phase only applies when (non-charging) Cv, Cm or Ch shot.
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skb777

Yes, should have mentioned that was the particular scenario I had in mind. hanks all