Nikephorian Late Lists Thematic/Tagmatic Cavalry Incorrect

Robin · January 31, 2021, 11:21:00 AM

The Tagmatic Cavalry are the regular troops and should be Drilled Loose.
The Thematic Cavalry are the farmers and should be Formed loose.
This was pointed out last year but i can not see it amended anywhere ?
They have been corrected in the Nikephorian list but not the Later Nikephorian list.

lionheartrjc · January 31, 2021, 11:56:34 AM

It was corrected in version 2020.03 - published 2nd May 2020. This is the version that is currently on the website.

I have just checked the 2021 lists as well and it is still correct.

Richard

Robin · January 31, 2021, 12:16:37 PM

Thanks Richard
i hadnt downloaded latest pdf.

Thanks again
Robin

Robin · January 31, 2021, 12:41:04 PM

Sorry, one last thing. The Tagmatic Cavalry have Mele Expert option in Nikephorian List but not Later Nikephorian list ? Is that an omission or intended ?

Rino · January 31, 2021, 03:24:49 PM

Quote from: lionheartrjc on January 31, 2021, 11:56:34 AM
It was corrected in version 2020.03 - published 2nd May 2020. This is the version that is currently on the website.

I have just checked the 2021 lists as well and it is still correct.

Richard

Good to know. Looking forward to check what changed in 2021 when the final version will be officialized.

nikgaukroger · January 31, 2021, 03:37:12 PM

Quote from: Rino on January 31, 2021, 03:24:49 PM
Good to know. Looking forward to check what changed in 2021 when the final version will be officialized.

I assume you've seen this - https://mortem-et-gloriam.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1616.0

Rino · January 31, 2021, 07:29:41 PM

Hi Nik, I did and I m hopeful that Simon get better !

badhabum · February 02, 2021, 02:50:57 PM

Quote from: Robin on January 31, 2021, 12:41:04 PM
Sorry, one last thing. The Tagmatic Cavalry have Mele Expert option in Nikephorian List but not Later Nikephorian list ? Is that an omission or intended ?

I am also interested in the answer

lionheartrjc · February 02, 2021, 05:13:21 PM

In the 2021 lists, both have the option of Melee Expert. I am not sure why they were different in the 2020 lists.

Richard

nikgaukroger · February 02, 2021, 07:00:16 PM

Not that anyone queried it before Robin

daveparish · February 02, 2021, 07:39:29 PM

Quote from: nikgaukroger on February 02, 2021, 07:00:16 PM
Not that anyone queried it before Robin

I thought it was to reflect a decline in quality towards the end of the period - clearly I was over-thinking justifications for things that were just omissions!

nikgaukroger · February 02, 2021, 07:58:37 PM

Quote from: daveparish on February 02, 2021, 07:39:29 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on February 02, 2021, 07:00:16 PM
Not that anyone queried it before Robin

I thought it was to reflect a decline in quality towards the end of the period - clearly I was over-thinking justifications for things that were just omissions!

Suspect that is what I thought when reviewing the lists previously as well

But reduced numbers of Tagmata allowed probably better reflect that.

Robin · February 02, 2021, 09:29:46 PM

If Manzikert was 1071 then it would make sence that some would be Mele Expert until that date. Which means the later list should have the option as well as the early. But cant see that option in the latest pdf.

badhabum · February 03, 2021, 10:16:32 AM

The later nikes tagmata definitly do not have the melee expert option

so what should it be ? ( before it all becomes official )

nikgaukroger · February 03, 2021, 10:54:06 AM

What Richard said above.