General giving a bonus when fighting in 2nd rank?

[badhabum]

But if the charge is FRONTAL but slightly to the side and his considred frontal ...it is still one corridor ...
A
B
C
D

ABCD are one file in one corridor, A to the front, B,C,D queuing behind  . An ennemy TUG charges , hits A base on the corner and C base on the corner . It is still a FRONTAL charge and one file in one corridor !There will be 2 fights, one for each impact . But it is still a file in one corridor as per definition pg 215 .

The commander is in the file fighting to the front, but which front is it ? My answer is he must choose once and for all but in the rules he gives his bonus to the file .. .

[Simon Meg-Meister]

A fine twist ....

Except now as fighting too have two anyway. A with possibly B supporting and C with possible D supporting.  So has to choose one fight. 

Si

[nikgaukroger]

A fine twist ....

Except now as fighting too have two anyway. A with possibly B supporting and C with possible D supporting.  So has to choose one fight. 

Si

Been fun watching this one blunder around but time to comment I think 

The point Jacques is making here is that all the bases are still a single file despite the file having 2 fights and the QRS claim is for "General fighting in file" - the latter is not linked to any single dice roll and so as written on the QRS a general fighting in the file would add to any fight the file has.

FWIW I suspect that if the wording about fighting in the front rank that is used in places was in fact "fighting in the file" the question would not arise 

[badhabum]

I will admitt pushing it a bit, but I know players and the questions will come . Punch and I are often taken as a reference so we go as far as possible when something fishy is possible so as to be able to give a straight simple answer .

By the way I hope to have the french QRS latest monday to submitt to other french players for correction .

[Simon Meg-Meister]

Yes always good that you push the limits as then I can answer at least.
Not a problem. I find it a good healthy process.

S

[nikgaukroger]

The point Jacques is making here is that all the bases are still a single file despite the file having 2 fights and the QRS claim is for "General fighting in file" - the latter is not linked to any single dice roll and so as written on the QRS a general fighting in the file would add to any fight the file has.

FWIW I suspect that if the wording about fighting in the front rank that is used in places was in fact "fighting in the file" the question would not arise 

Can we finally nail this then please 

A file can have, IIRC, 4 fights so if the QRS is applied as written a general fighting in the file (no mention of where) gives the + claim to all the fights.

[Simon Meg-Meister]

If the corridor is one file then yes it would be.
are we going round in circles.

So

A
B
C
D

All facing forwards is 1 file.  So I guess there yes he counts for all.
Once they turn they create new files in the same corridor so then have to choose.
Is that fully consistent as written.

Si

[nikgaukroger]

Cheers, I think that that is now clear 

I'd still stand by this though 

FWIW I suspect that if the wording about fighting in the front rank that is used in places was in fact "fighting in the file" the question would not arise.

[Simon Meg-Meister]

Probably true.  I'll add it to the tidy ups for version 3 one day.

S

[marshalney2000]

Have seen all sorts of variation on this one with my memorable one being a competition where RJC did not allow me to claim in a game against him but then in the forum the next week gave the exact opposite answer.
If the general leading from the front then not sure how he can inspire up to three ranks behind him who probably cannot even see the poor sod. If he is adding a factor to all four ranks then we should probably give a plus to the chance of being killed. Up onecolour on the death roll for each attempt as he has a chance of being taken down from the rear.
Also opens up the question if he should add to the factors of all bases in other formations such as orb. He is much more visible there.

[lionheartrjc]

Have seen all sorts of variation on this one with my memorable one being a competition where RJC did not allow me to claim in a game against him but then in the forum the next week gave the exact opposite answer.
If the general leading from the front then not sure how he can inspire up to three ranks behind him who probably cannot even see the poor sod. If he is adding a factor to all four ranks then we should probably give a plus to the chance of being killed. Up onecolour on the death roll for each attempt as he has a chance of being taken down from the rear.
Also opens up the question if he should add to the factors of all bases in other formations such as orb. He is much more visible there.

Get over it!  If I was infallible it would be such a bore.  Umpires are allowed to get it wrong as long as they are trying their best.

I think Simon has made the position clear. 

Richard

[marshalney2000]

Quite clear from Simon but just inputting a view if this is allowed. Can let it rest now.

[badhabum]

So pushing things is usefull so I am still usefull 

[Simon Meg-Meister]

Always. 
From such pushing incomes tightening.

[Plantagenet]

Probably true.  I'll add it to the tidy ups for version 3 one day.

S

Is there going to be an errata at some stage?  Not sure how long a 'v3 one day' might be before it comes but I've seen a few posts mentioning an issue being noted for 'v3 one day'.  Until that v3 does come it would be preferable IMO to be able to find all these issues in once place rather than having to trawl the forums trying to remember where they are.