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Mortem et Gloriam Players Podcast Episode 3 - Qin and Western Han

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April 01, 2021, 03:47:52 PM Last Edit: April 29, 2021, 06:54:14 PM by nikgaukroger
Welcome to the third Mortem et Gloriam Players Podcast - back by public demand, honest  ;)

In this episode Ray, Richard and Nik look at Chinese lists for the Qin and Western Han, with the usual historical overview. They are joined by MeG regular Peter Entwistle who has led his Qin army to competition success at Badcon last year – so at least one of the team know what they're talking about  :P

As ever the lists discussed are provided below for your expert scrutiny – and if anyone if brave enough to use Nik's we'll be dead impressed ...

There is also an exclusive interview with Tim Porter about the BHGS and wargames competitions.

Follow this link for the podcast - https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-87uui-ff7926

Alas the history section became detached but has been recovered and can be found here as a separate podcast - https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-45prt-ff7cf7 - apologies for any inconvenience  :-[

The lists discussed, figure suppliers and the suggested reading material will be posted below.

As ever we'd love feedback on this, and any suggestions for future topics or questions from players on the lists and/or rules that we might be able to answer would be welcome. As well as any posts here on the forum or on social media you can email us at MortemPod@yahoo.com - we look forward to hearing from you.

If you missed the first episode the link to it and all the supporting material can be found on the forum here - https://mortem-et-gloriam.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1680.0  - and the second episode here - https://mortem-et-gloriam.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1716.msg13052#msg13052

"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."

nikgaukroger

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April 01, 2021, 03:53:43 PM
Here are the lists that the guys drew up - these are Maximus sized lists. As ever there may well be errors with these, they haven't been list checked, so you have been warned ...








"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."

nikgaukroger

#2
April 01, 2021, 03:54:13 PM
And the same in Pacto version. Note that as usual these are pretty much a straight conversion from the Maximus lists and so have not been drawn up to a specific points value.








"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."

nikgaukroger

#4
April 01, 2021, 03:57:10 PM
Books

A general history of the Qin and Han – "Early Chinese Empires (History of Imperial China): Qin and Han" - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Early-Chinese-Empires-History-Imperial/dp/0674057341/ref=sr_1_29?

Osprey that covers the period to the end of Qin – "Ancient Chinese Armies 1500-200 BC: 218 (Men-at-Arms)" - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0850459427/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i7

Osprey that covers the Han and later – "Imperial Chinese Armies (1): 200 BC-AD 589" - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Imperial-Chinese-Armies-BC-589-Men-at-Arms/dp/1855325144/ref=sr_1_1?

Osprey single volume that includes material from the two above – "Soldiers of the Dragon: Chinese Armies 1500 BC-AD 1840" - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1846030986/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i9

For a bit of Chinese military theory background:

Sun Tzu - "The Art of War (History & Warfare)" - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-War-History-Warfare/dp/081331951X/ref=sr_1_18?

"Seven Military Classics of Ancient China, The (History and Warfare)" - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Military-Classics-Ancient-History-Warfare/dp/0465003044/ref=sr_1_1?


Google Images - https://www.google.co.uk/imghp?hl=en&authuser=0&ogbl – is also a useful resource for images.
"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."

nikgaukroger

#5
April 01, 2021, 03:57:43 PM
Other useful links for MeG gaming

MeG Website - https://mortem-et-gloriam.co.uk/meg/ ; there are ready made lists to download and links to other resources.

MeG YouTube videos - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPemvpT3ANJ45P9XXGgTcLA ; introductory videos from author Simon Hall on how MeG plays.

Society of Ancients - http://www.soa.org.uk/joomla/ ; the bi-monthly Slingshot journal is a great publication for the ancient/medieval period.

They also have a forum - http://soa.org.uk/sm/ - useful for asking questions and where you can get info.
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