Quote from: lionheartrjc on November 29, 2019, 10:12:11 AM

Quote from: Rino on November 29, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
So a 10 unit army will go as 4-4-2, right?

Yes:

A full list from 7UGs to 25UGs:
7 = 3/3/1
8 = 3/3/2
9 = 3/3/3
10 = 4/4/2
11 = 4/4/3
12 = 4/4/4
13 = 5/5/3
14 = 5/5/4
15 = 5/5/5
16 = 6/6/4
17 = 6/6/5
18 = 6/6/6
19 = 7/7/5
20 = 7/7/6
21 = 7/7/7
22 = 8/8/6
23 = 8/8/7
24 = 8/8/8
25 = 9/9/7

I hope  that is clear...

might be good to ad this in claries/core rule

What If you use Parthians with only 3 Tugs? 😉

Quote from: mad lemmey on November 30, 2019, 09:08:16 AM
What If you use Parthians with only 3 Tugs? 😉

It is UGs that matter, not TuGs. I haven't worked out what the smallest possible 10000 point army could be.  Presumably 1 Legendary C-in-C, 1 Talented, 2 Competent subs,  and then an army with expensive compulsory troops and some high quality troops.  Romans with exceptional legionaries I guess.

3 UGs would be 1/1/1  (difficult to interpret 1/3 any other way!).
4 UGs would be 2/2/0
5 UGs would be 2/2/1
6 UGs would be 2/2/2 

Richard

I know, that's why I asked. 
Now I want to find the smallest possible army!  Suspect Nikeophorians with tooled up Varangians, Normans and charging lancers would be close

Quote from: mad lemmey on November 30, 2019, 11:01:12 AM
I know, that's why I asked. 
Now I want to find the smallest possible army!  Suspect Nikeophorians with tooled up Varangians, Normans and charging lancers would be close

Sad that I am I've already written a trial Nikephorian list with Richard's latest improvements. I got up to 9 UGs - but I was trying to make it up to nine, could have been a lot smaller. Really late knight armies with armoured horses might be smaller still.

Quote from: mad lemmey on November 30, 2019, 11:01:12 AM
I know, that's why I asked. 
Now I want to find the smallest possible army!  Suspect Nikeophorians with tooled up Varangians, Normans and charging lancers would be close

You can get a Later Swiss down to about 5...

S

Quote from: Jilu on November 29, 2019, 10:53:09 PM

Quote from: lionheartrjc on November 29, 2019, 10:12:11 AM

Quote from: Rino on November 29, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
So a 10 unit army will go as 4-4-2, right?

Yes:

A full list from 7UGs to 25UGs:
7 = 3/3/1
8 = 3/3/2
9 = 3/3/3
10 = 4/4/2
11 = 4/4/3
12 = 4/4/4
13 = 5/5/3
14 = 5/5/4
15 = 5/5/5
16 = 6/6/4
17 = 6/6/5
18 = 6/6/6
19 = 7/7/5
20 = 7/7/6
21 = 7/7/7
22 = 8/8/6
23 = 8/8/7
24 = 8/8/8
25 = 9/9/7

I hope  that is clear...

might be good to ad this in claries/core rule

We can put its in the final army builder.  Very easy.

S

What would be really useful would be a table that showed the number of UGs to deploy in each of the 2-4 batches for each level of outscouting.
For example for 13 UGs
  0% 5/5/3/-
10% 2/5/5/1
20% 3/5/5/-
30% 4/5/4/-
40% 6/5/2/-
50% 7/5/1/-
60% 8/5/-/-
70% 10/3/-/-
80% 11/2/-/-
90% 12/1/-/-

and for 19 UGs
  0% 7/7/5/-
10% 2/7/7/3
20% 4/7/7/1
30% 6/7/6/-
40% 8/7/4/-
50% 10/7/2/-
60% 12/7/-/-
70% 14/5/-/-
80% 16/3/-/-
90% 18/1/-/-

Its actually just knowing what a
a) 3rd rounded up is really isn't it.
b) each % of outvoting is for the army

I'll see if we can sneak it onto the army builder somehow in a space efficient manner.

S

Seems like they should be:

7 = 3/2/2
8 = 3/3/2
9 = 3/3/3
10 = 4/3/3
11 = 4/4/3
12 = 4/4/4
13 = 5/4/4
14 = 5/5/4
15 = 5/5/5
16 = 6/5/5
17 = 6/6/5
18 = 6/6/6
19 = 7/6/6
20 = 7/7/6
21 = 7/7/7
22 = 8/7/7
23 = 8/8/7
24 = 8/8/8
25 = 9/8/8

The formula for this would be:

First third = N/3 roundup
Second third = N/3 round
Final third = N/3 rounddown

Where N is the number of UGs.

In the second third "round" means that x.33 will round down and x.67 will round up. That gives more even distribution of the UGs over the thirds, rather than a short one at the end

I'm getting a head ache. Anybody for snakes and ladders

If the Army Builder does it, then no headache.

All now built into the army builder.

Si

Quote from: RobAustin on December 04, 2019, 03:26:39 PM
If the Army Builder does it, then no headache.
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Funny, it's easy to do dividing a number less than 20 by 3 is very basic.

QuoteFunny, it's easy to do dividing a number less than 20 by 3 is very basic.

Is it? please divide zero by three for me and let me know how it goes?

Like the look of the new scouting/game setup rules - looks much fairer.