I read it somewhere but did not find it back :

New deployment is by 1/3 that seems simple .

But I am correct to assume that the ouscouted side depoys by the % outscouted and if notup to 1/3 of his army, he deploys 1/3 of his army and the other player up to 1/3 of his army also ?

It is somewhere I know but where 

Its exactly like today but replace 4s with 1/3rd of original UG count.

So outscouted player 1 deploys 50% roundup
other player 2 50% round up

Then player 1 33% rounded up
Player 2 33% rounded up

Player 1 what's left
Player 2 what's left

No outscoring
33% alternating

Quote from: badhabum on November 25, 2019, 08:49:32 PM
I read it somewhere but did not find it back :

New deployment is by 1/3 that seems simple .

But I am correct to assume that the ouscouted side depoys by the % outscouted and if notup to 1/3 of his army, he deploys 1/3 of his army and the other player up to 1/3 of his army also ?

It is somewhere I know but where 

its on the deployment quick reference sheet , I had a similar search for it today

https://lurkio.co.uk/meg/meg/wp-content/uploads/MEG2020/Rule_Materials/2020%20PBS%20&%20Terrain%20QRS%20201119.pdf

Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on November 25, 2019, 09:20:52 PM
Its exactly like today but replace 4s with 1/3rd of original UG count.

So outscouted player 1 deploys 50% roundup
other player 2 50% round up

Then player 1 33% rounded up
Player 2 33% rounded up

Player 1 what's left
Player 2 what's left

No outscoring
33% alternating

Worth noting that the above is based on an example of being outscouted by 50% - it isn't a flat 50% 

The whole PBS sequence is on the sheet.
Just follow it line by line and you are there.
S

If I am out scouted by 10% do I deploy 10% of my forces or 1/3. (The old system was to deploy a minimum of 4, if I recall correctly.)

Is the 1/3 the number of UGs in the army or those remaining after the deployments resulting from outscouting?

Follow the PBS sequence line by line...  so if outscouted you deploy the %, not 1/3 (and your opponent will then deploy the %).  Then you deploy by 1/3s (always rounding up although the PBS sequence doesn't mention this).

Only if neither player is outscouted will you deploy 1/3 first.

Examples:

Army A has 11 UG,  army B has 19 UG.    Army A outscouted by 20%.
A deploys 3 UGs.
Then ambushes/flank marchers.
B deploys 4 UGs.
A deploys 4 UGs.
B deploys 7 UGs.
A deploys 4 UGs (this is there entire army)
B deploys there remaining 8 UGs.

Army A has 11 UG,  army B has 19 UG.    Army B outscouted by 20%.
B deploys 4 UGs.
Then ambushes/flank marchers.
A deploys 3 UGs.
B deploys 7 UGs.
A deploys 4 UGs.
B deploys 7 UGs.
A deploys 4 UGs.
B deploys 1 UG.

Army A has 11 UG,  army B has 19 UG.    Army B outscouted by 70%.

B deploys 14 UGs.
Then ambushes/flank marchers.
A deploys 8 UGs.
B deploys 5 UGs.
A deploys 3 UGs.

Army A has 11 UG,  army B has 19 UG.   Neither side outscouted.  B is the Defender.

Ambushes/flank marchers.
B deploys 7 UGs.
A deploys 4 UGs.
B deploys 7 UGs.
A deploys 4 UGs.
B deploys 5 UGs.
A deploys 3 UGs.

OK, thanks.

Since the army is divided into thirds before pre-scouting deployments, it would be interesting if the Army Builder could calculate that. I would have thought 19 would be 7/6/6, until I reread what you have posted that is not in the step-by-step instructions.

I guess we could do that in there for everyone.
taken literally it would be 7/7/5 as you have to round up each 33%.
Si

So a 10 unit army will go as 4-4-2, right?

Quote from: Rino on November 29, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
So a 10 unit army will go as 4-4-2, right?

Yes:

A full list from 7UGs to 25UGs:
7 = 3/3/1
8 = 3/3/2
9 = 3/3/3
10 = 4/4/2
11 = 4/4/3
12 = 4/4/4
13 = 5/5/3
14 = 5/5/4
15 = 5/5/5
16 = 6/6/4
17 = 6/6/5
18 = 6/6/6
19 = 7/7/5
20 = 7/7/6
21 = 7/7/7
22 = 8/8/6
23 = 8/8/7
24 = 8/8/8
25 = 9/9/7

I hope  that is clear...

Couldn't be clearer thanks List Meister!

S

QuoteFollow the PBS sequence line by line...  so if outscouted you deploy the %, not 1/3 (and your opponent will then deploy the %).  Then you deploy by 1/3s (always rounding up although the PBS sequence doesn't mention this).

Still not Crystal clear if partially outscouted.

A has 10 units B has 20 units

B is outscouted by 10 %

B deploys camp, 2 units + flank and so on

A deploys camp and only one unit has he deploys per the % of outscouting and not the number of units deployed by B

A has 9 units remaining B has 18 units remaining

Do they deploy 1/3 based on the initial number of units in the army or 1/3 of the remaining units in the army after outscouting ?

1/3 of the army size, not 1/3 of the remaining units, I think my examples actually make that clear.

Richard

It is clear if you know the answer before. Otherwise trouble water 

Now it is clear