Loose foot charging into rear of Cv

Started by jasonbroomer, June 02, 2019, 07:51:08 PM

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jasonbroomer

Si,

I've also thought it odd that loose foot charging into the rear of cavalry suffer the -1 for foot charging Cv and -1 for being loose. Surely one of these (if not both) should only be applied to frontal charges.

Just played a game and found it a bit grim to be only one factor up charging superior Cv up the rear?

marshalney2000


AntiokosIII

Quote from: jasonbroomer on June 02, 2019, 07:51:08 PM
Si,

I've also thought it odd that loose foot charging into the rear of cavalry suffer the -1 for foot charging Cv and -1 for being loose. Surely one of these (if not both) should only be applied to frontal charges.

Just played a game and found it a bit grim to be only one factor up charging superior Cv up the rear?
Don't those factors count only against frontal opponents?
Miniature Wargaming is the only completely honorable form of warfare ever invented by man.

rayfredjohn

Quote from: AntiokosIII on June 02, 2019, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: jasonbroomer on June 02, 2019, 07:51:08 PM
Si,

I've also thought it odd that loose foot charging into the rear of cavalry suffer the -1 for foot charging Cv and -1 for being loose. Surely one of these (if not both) should only be applied to frontal charges.

Just played a game and found it a bit grim to be only one factor up charging superior Cv up the rear?
Don't those factors count only against frontal opponents?

No. Only those claims with an Asterix are limited to fighting to the front.

Hunter

Dishonour before defeat!

Rino

I experienced it myself with my  bowmen charging the flanc of some superior chariots.
At the end it was a green vs green. So much for the flanc charge !

Simon Meg-Meister

Seems sensible to me.

Being charged in flank by tightly formed heavy no fun at all.
Being charged in flank by loose order troops not so bad.
Charging mounted with foot not easy at all as individual mounted just turn to face without needing any formation (close order cataphracts perhaps excluded).

It is set up so flank charge by foot on cv/cm/Ch is as follows without grades and waepons:
Close Order net +3
Loose Order net +2
Skirmishers net +1

Seems spot on to me.

Si



Si
Rolling Skulls in the land or Purple

Simon Meg-Meister

Quote from: Rino on June 03, 2019, 01:59:27 PM
I experienced it myself with my  bowmen charging the flanc of some superior chariots.
At the end it was a green vs green. So much for the flanc charge !

Seems a good deal to me ...
Average bowmen vs Superior chariots turn a -4/5 into evens by hitting them in the flank.
Points per base difference ...? More bases.
But need to kill them quickly.
Feels good to me.

Si
Rolling Skulls in the land or Purple

Hunter

Looking at it through that lens it does indeed feel about right.
Dishonour before defeat!

rayfredjohn

I'm going to run in and hit your chariot thingy with my bow, not.  Alternatively chaps, we can take pot shots at those horrible horsey carts from a safe distance. Let me think ........................

Rino

Well technically they were already being shot from front as well ;P

stuuk

Agree with Simon, those boys shouldn't be fighting at all, so being on evens seems a good deal.

Simon Meg-Meister

Rolling Skulls in the land or Purple

Rino

Quote from: stuuk on June 04, 2019, 08:11:47 PM
Agree with Simon, those boys shouldn't be fighting at all, so being on evens seems a good deal.

So much for all the biblical and amerindians...

marshalney2000

So do the Mounted hit in the rear also get an extra plus one for foot not standing to receive.