I'll report back after running Huns at Skullrollers....
I have some plans .... but they may die horribly!!!

Si

That's why I will report after Monchaux ( 8-9 june )

going to play early byzantine at historicon   Personally i like the way horse archers work are now.   

Horse archers are great unless you have to fight lancers that move 5 BW. Then it hits the fan.

I have plan.   Biggest problem I see is enough time in tournament setting to win.  Not lancers   Just my opinion.

Quote from: Raiderd on May 21, 2019, 09:25:38 PM
I have plan.   Biggest problem I see is enough time in tournament setting to win.  Not lancers   Just my opinion.

Lancers, as Antiokos wrote, are part of the problem . Most lancers and other shock cavalry are melee expert or long spear which give them the edge in melee ( and impact ) . Now that is the problem of the end of the world , when you cannot retreat anymore or get caught when skirmishing or fleeing .

Time in tournament is indeed a problem if you have no skilled  shooters ( one or two units can make the difference ) as white dice can hurt the ennemy but it will take time and time is short during a tournament .So as time is short you need at one point to go to melee but not all shooters are good at melee, except the huns, mongols and like ... So for a friendly game the rule seems OK but for tournaments there might be a problem .

But I will try at Monchaux and come back to you .

In two test games my Parthian still didn't have time to win in 3 hrs.
They can do some damage but it tends to be spread out, and a single bad roll for evasion nets the enemy a point for a dead SuG versus my needing to kill 3-4 bases on average (6-8 hits) to get two points.

Having to have half the lads on white makes their damage potential quite low. On the other hand, Cantabrian is almost a death sentence, but at least they get a chance to shine.

Mongols and the like who can scrap as well are a much better choice IMHO for competition. Unfortunately I bought a Parthian army!

Quote from: Raiderd on May 21, 2019, 06:33:18 PM
going to play early byzantine at historicon   Personally i like the way horse archers work are now.

Yes I am very pleased that MeG has captured the character of the Byzantine methods.
Many of the armies well worth using now (perhaps the very late ones after Komnenan difficult, but then in decline)

Si

Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on May 30, 2019, 08:28:40 AM
Many of the armies well worth using now (perhaps the very late ones after Komnenan difficult, but then in decline)

I wouldn't rule them out. This is the one I used at Campaign and I reckon could be OK outside a theme as well.

Not too shabby at all Nik 
Although beyond the Drilled Shoot & Charge era that gives it its special character.
Si

Outside period you must just pray not to face too many longbows