Several queries

Started by madmonkey, February 12, 2024, 01:55:56 PM

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tarnowski1

Quote from: madmonkey on June 13, 2024, 10:20:20 AM
Hello! We just had another tournament and now we have another 2 questions:

1. If a unit that has not charged / was not charged makes a pursuit move on the charge phase, can it make any prompted action in the movement phase? (ex. it was engaged in combat with a unit that was charged and destroyed in the beginning of the turn).

short answer yes, with a caveat,


in the original clarifications for the hard back,

'CAN YOU MOVE AFTER PURSUING IN A CHARGE OR SHOOTING PHASE? This is written as intended on Page 80 item 14. If it made a charge this turn it cannot make another Prompted Action other than those stated. If, however, it was in combat and caused its enemy to break, then it is free to make an action unless it must reform after combat (see Page 99 C2).' p99 equates p105 8.C2 in pdf edition

the intent appears to have been, if you reform and then pursue you may not take another prompted action in the movement phase. If you dont have to reform and then pursue you can take a prompted action in the movement phase.

does beg the question though that troop types like missile focused foot that never have to pursue , can reform and then make a prompted move, after all they did not pursue...

Quote from: madmonkey on June 13, 2024, 10:20:20 AM
2. In mixed TuGs if both entries have the option to take a certain characteristic can only one of the two take it? (ex. I want to mix in List 3205 Select fyrd with Great fyrd, can I only make the Great fyrd combat shy?) Also, if I take Hird with Select fyrd, can I downgrade the Select fyrd to poor without downgrading the Hird to average?
Thank you

covered at the start of each armylist pdf 'If any bases are downgraded all in the UG must be downgraded' means if you downgraded Hird to average, fyrd back rankss go down to poor.

also
'Unless specified otherwise, all elements in a UG must be classified identically. Unless specified otherwise, if an optional characteristic is
taken, it must be taken by all the elements in the UG for which that optional characteristic is available.'

you can make Great fyrd combat shy and not the Select fyrd as long as they do not also have that option .

regards
Matt




nikgaukroger

PDF page 105 8 C 2 and 3, combined with the only 1 prompted move stuff on page 38 are the rules references you need when looking at moves in the Movement phase after combat in the Charge phase.

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Jilu

Quote from: nikgaukroger on June 13, 2024, 11:55:50 AM
PDF page 105 8 C 2 and 3, combined with the only 1 prompted move stuff on page 38 are the rules references you need when looking at moves in the Movement phase after combat in the Charge phase.



Okay but what is there is no reform needed, as it stayed in legal formation. can it then move?
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lionheartrjc

Quote from: Jilu on July 09, 2024, 10:51:13 AM
Okay but what is there is no reform needed, as it stayed in legal formation. can it then move?
As long as it meets all the other requirements that would allow it to make a prompted action, yes.

Richard

madmonkey

Hello! We are just having another tournament this weekend and we have a few questions (and we will surely have a few more after tomorrow):

1. A double move must remain more than 4BW away from my opponent. But if I pull a SuG that is in front of my TuG, does the pulled SuG have to also remain further than 4BW from my enemy?

2. Lsp Infantry have +2 vs Cv in 2 ranks, +1 vs others. Does it mean that if I have a Lsp infantry in 1 rank fighting cavalry it gets +0? Or does the +1 vs others apply?

3. We have this scenario from the diagram attached, where A2 contacts one of C's bases in front and one of B's bases in the flank (Let's say A is my unit, C & B are my opponents). Can my opponent always choose to have the hits from A2 directed to base C so that I never hit unit B's flank?

Thank you so much in advance

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lionheartrjc

1)  The SuG must remain 4 BW away in a double move.  The restriction applies to all UGs being moved.

2) The LSp must be in 2 ranks to get a combat claim.

3)  Yes.  If your opponent has two files onto your one, they choose which one fights.  If you had a third file in UG A contacting C, then each file would fight.  Note that it appears you cannot claim a flank contact on B unless you started the charge entirely behind the flank of the extended front edge of UG B.

Richard

madmonkey

Thank you so much!

LsP in magna seem to not be that strong against Cv.

We also have another question regarding alligning, when using the free allign of 1BW, is it possible to create a new file of combat, like the attached diagram?



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lionheartrjc

Yes. Long Spear standing to receive cancel quite a lot of cavalry factors.  You may however want to review this topic https://mortem-et-gloriam.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3369.0.

It appears that the UGs are already aligned, so no.

Richard