Just to be 100% sure : a dismountable infantry unit moving mounted speed still has the full use of shield cover.

I would say yes but some argued that no mounted do have shield cover 

There is nothing in the rules that says mounted cannot use Shield Cover.

Then I would assume a note is required .
It is impossible to « shield over «  a horse ... the horse is too big and the shield too small.
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Quote from: Onurbm on February 06, 2023, 08:00:49 AM

Then I would assume a note is required .
It is impossible to « shield over «  a horse ... the horse is too big and the shield too small.
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I see no real reason why dismountable infantry shouldn't claim shield cover.  It is the man not the mount that matters...

Richard

Sounds like there is a free way to dismount! Don't pay a yellow card, just make sure they shoot the horse from under you! 

Quote from: DutchFromBelgium on February 06, 2023, 04:03:18 PM
Sounds like there is a free way to dismount! Don't pay a yellow card, just make sure they shoot the horse from under you! 

Dismounting in having your horse shot from under you is not harmless to the rider .

Quote from: lionheartrjc on February 06, 2023, 12:03:16 PM

Quote from: Onurbm on February 06, 2023, 08:00:49 AM

Then I would assume a note is required .
It is impossible to « shield over «  a horse ... the horse is too big and the shield too small.
😂🤣

I see no real reason why dismountable infantry shouldn't claim shield cover.  It is the man not the mount that matters...

Richard

That's why during Napoleonic times the order was to aim for the horse  I fear I must disagree if you take only logic : horses are bigger targets and it was usual practise to aim for the horses. So it would disrupt the movement, the charge.

Honestly I cannot imagine a mounted guy having the benefit of shield cover. To protect the horse you need much more than that it's called a FARM horse . But we play rules. If you want something logic then mounted cannot have shield cover as the target is the horse. Now it is a game and you do not need to be historical, just gaming fun . So I follow the rules not reality 

And by the way , rule makes a difference when under fire between ARMOURED HORSE / protected and unarmoured horse, full armour

Shooting from a distance , it's the horse .... Hashing and bashing close, it's the rider .

Nope for shield cover mounted .... You need shields as large as the horse ... did not exist ever , moved to cataphract.

Maybe this discussion is not for rule query but for rule evolution
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Quote from: Onurbm on February 10, 2023, 07:05:11 AM
Maybe this discussion is not for rule query but for rule evolution

I think you are correct.

Something for future consideration.

I like positive mindset

If......Shield Cover is not allowed when mounted, then the simple answer is just to make it a dismounted infantry characteristic?

Lance.

Quote from: Lanceflint on February 10, 2023, 03:32:19 PM
If......Shield Cover is not allowed when mounted, then the simple answer is just to make it a dismounted infantry characteristic?

Lance.

I would have thought the easy answer is just to add it to the list of things dismountable infantry can't do while mounted (Appendix 1.U.4).

Would infantry with both dismountable and shield cover get a points (or perhaps 1 point) reduction?

Why would they get a point reduction ? Shield cover is in fact an infantry thing . The TUG just has to dismount to get it ( if it's changed )

Quote from: badhabum on February 10, 2023, 05:09:27 PM
Why would they get a point reduction ? Shield cover is in fact an infantry thing . The TUG just has to dismount to get it ( if it's changed )

Because at the current cost they can use it while mounted. If they lose that ability, they are not worth as many points.

Quote from: badhabum on February 05, 2023, 07:59:31 PM
Just to be 100% sure : a dismountable infantry unit moving mounted speed still has the full use of shield cover.

I would say yes but some argued that no mounted do have shield cover 

Yes is the intent as its the man not the nags we care about. A bit generous in that perhaps they should be forced to dismount if they choose to use it.  But if they are mounted still then go charge them and kill them while they are combat shy.

S