shooting in woods and forests.

Started by LawrenceG, January 27, 2023, 05:49:31 PM

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LawrenceG

Not quite sure how it works.

Woods.

Front rank with any part in woods means file is limited to 2(SUG) or 1(TUG) rank shooting.
In a mixed TUG would a front rank spearman in woods limit 2nd and 3rd rank bowmen to only 1 rank shooting, even if they are in the open?

Any other rank with its front edge in the woods also means file is limited to 2(SUG) or 1(TUG) rank shooting.

Forest.

Front rank with any part in forest means file is limited to 1 rank shooting (= no shot for SUG).
In a mixed TUG would a front rank spearman in woods limit 2nd and 3rd rank bowmen to only 1 rank shooting, even if they are in the open?

Any other rank with its front edge in the forest can't shoot. But any other rank with its front edge entirely in the open can shoot.


Is that right?

LawrenceG

The thing that confused me was this text at 7.E.1 in the pdf:

"If a rear rank, the reducing effect doesn't apply if its front edge is entirely out of terrain affecting it."

It must have accidentally got put in/left in during editing.
One for the errata.


7.G.3.3 plus the diagram immediately after it explains things, although 3.3 could be clearer about exactly what it is referring to.

tarnowski1

 from the clarification doc,

'IF A SHOOTING UG HAS ITS FRONT EDGE OUT OF A WOOD, BUT BASES BEHIND ARE IN THE WOOD, DOES IT SHOOT AS IF OUT OF THE WOOD OR DOES IT SUFFER THE LIMITATION ON RANKS ABLE TO SHOOT FOR BEING IN THE WOOD? Treat it as like combat and only use the front edge for determining whether the shooters are in the wood or out. Remember shooting is by file and so different files of an UG may be affected differently.'

which seems to match the rules ,

if front edge of a file is in a wood/forest then shooting is impacted by the terrain, regardless of whether the rear ranks are in the terrain or not.

badhabum

Quote from: tarnowski1 on January 27, 2023, 07:53:54 PM
from the clarification doc,

'IF A SHOOTING UG HAS ITS FRONT EDGE OUT OF A WOOD, BUT BASES BEHIND ARE IN THE WOOD, DOES IT SHOOT AS IF OUT OF THE WOOD OR DOES IT SUFFER THE LIMITATION ON RANKS ABLE TO SHOOT FOR BEING IN THE WOOD? Treat it as like combat and only use the front edge for determining whether the shooters are in the wood or out. Remember shooting is by file and so different files of an UG may be affected differently.'

which seems to match the rules ,

if front edge of a file is in a wood/forest then shooting is impacted by the terrain, regardless of whether the rear ranks are in the terrain or not.

I agree