The issue raised is not being able to skirmish/run away forwards per se, but for the sub-set of such cases where the result is odd such as when you could effectively get a free countercharge.

Quote from: nikgaukroger on June 15, 2021, 01:18:13 PM
The issue raised is not being able to skirmish/run away forwards per se, but for the sub-set of such cases where the result is odd such as when you could effectively get a free countercharge.

ok i know, yet i repeat myself:
In the rules it states that :
page 127 -2.2 :

A skirmish response represents a dropping back more gradualy while maximising firng on chargers.

I do not see how you drop back by  going forward. Dropping back can only be backwards.

Well the rules also clearly state you can do it forwards regardless of saying is is dropping back 

As you end facing the enemy when making a skirmish (as opposed to a run away) move I guess you could rationalise it as the fluidity you mentioned in your earlier post 

Quote from: Jilu on June 15, 2021, 02:55:12 PM
A skirmish response represents a dropping back more gradualy while maximising firng on chargers.[/i]

I do not see how you drop back by  going forward. Dropping back can only be backwards.

You drop back by  going forward if the enemy is charging you in the rear.

Just to be clear - this is not intended to be a lawyer's discussion.  The topic is to point out that the rule is open to abuse.  I don't believe expanding the rule to try and cover all situations is helpful - it is a case of resorting back to playing the game in the right spirit.


Richard

It's very quirky situation.  I do agree its a bit cheesy.  Although you could argue that they shot a space to escape through, in reality those casualties are spread across the enemy unit.

I would be inclined to simply add as a clarry to cover such rare events 

"run away and skirmish moves can never go through any space occupied by enemy bases - even if they have just been removed by shooting."

Hy this is the situation type where I did flee forward ( not on the picture an enemy TUG was right behind my SUG ) . So I do not see the problem as the heavies do charge but the lights just run away as quickly as possible

To repeat myself:

Quote from: nikgaukroger on June 15, 2021, 01:18:13 PM
The issue raised is not being able to skirmish/run away forwards per se, but for the sub-set of such cases where the result is odd such as when you could effectively get a free countercharge.

Your case - no problem as it isn't what Richard raised.

Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on June 18, 2021, 11:06:20 AM
I would be inclined to simply add as a clarry to cover such rare events 

"run away and skirmish moves can never go through any space occupied by enemy bases - even if they have just been removed by shooting."

Remembering, of course, the universal half base width shift

And that it cannot be used to avoid charging enemy in a run away/skirmish response.