I have scheduled a set of zoom meetings WC July 13th at different times. All can be accesses from the zoom website with my personal meeting ID of 416 218 6522.  The purpose is to share where we are going with Mortem et Gloriam for Vs2.0, to walk through the main changes proposed, to gather feedback, and to share the testing and finalisation process for with the rules and the books.If you would prefer and email invite just message me.

French Speakers
Separated out as I can use some French to assist.
Monday July 13th. 18.30-20.30pm UK time . Meeting access code 418784.
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4162186522?pwd=heytAKZQaKTMx969FRT0bajDo49rgo.1&omn=83468559386

USA. July 13th 22.30-24.00 UK time. Meeting access code 418784.
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4162186522?pwd=heytAKZQaKTMx969FRT0bajDo49rgo.1&omn=82148950600

Asia and Aus July 15th 0700-0900 UK time. Meeting access code 418784.
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4162186522?pwd=heytAKZQaKTMx969FRT0bajDo49rgo.1&omn=84125024885

Poland/Greece July 28th 1800-2000 UK time. Meeting access code 418784.
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4162186522?pwd=heytAKZQaKTMx969FRT0bajDo49rgo.1&omn=87268394445


UK July 29th 19.30 -21.30 Uk time. Meeting access code 418784.
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4162186522?pwd=heytAKZQaKTMx969FRT0bajDo49rgo.1&omn=87284292488

Look forward to chatting to you then.

Onwards and upwards.

Si

First can I thank you all for your enthusiasm over the last 3 years while I have been disabled to varying degrees. I am now 90% recovered from the electrocution and all that followed, and I am really enjoying my wargaming again. 😊. A special thanks t RJC and Nik who have been amazing.
 
For some time I have been thinking about where to take MeG and the community. I want to gather input personally from all the playing communities around the world and to that end will organise a Zoom meeting in July for each community and invite any and all to join.  The purpose of those will be threefold: 1) get ideas on what you would like to see changed, 2) discuss how we can best build the community and 3) discuss specifics proposed for the future.  You will not need to have zoom.  Just a link to click on.  An open invite to chat.
 
The objective at this stage is to lock down the rules for the next 10 years.  Over recent years we have had a very positive evolution of rules and lists that have been well received in the main. But I know many of you want stability. I feel we are  at the stage of learning about the game where we can do a vs2 that locks the rules down, puts in all improvements in one go, and simplifies the rules and their presentation to better attract new players.
 
In headline terms this is the plan for you all to ponder prior to Zoom sessions:

1. Helion will publish a vs2 book and a single army book as above.   That gets MeG at all the shows and they distribute trade to places all over the world so we can get stock into shops in Europe, USA etc. through them. They will also stock play bags sets with cards, discs and dice.

2. Simplify the packaging of the rules into a easier access form.  We have a few ideas on this to kick around.

3. Add a final layer of richness to troop character and variety. Most 2026 competition amendments – done as a precursor to this – have gone down well. They add richness to troop character – e.g. the four spear lengths now work really well. Hoplites now feel spot on to me. With a few other ideas we have the interactions and system are about as good as they can ever get.  We will separately publish the full set of proposed vs2 amendments in the forum for you all to look at and test out. Also we are going to do a podcast working through them for you all to listen to.  In testing so far here they make the game simpler and slicker, and improve troop character still further.

The army builder will be set up for 5000, 7500, and 10,000 points with generals costs reduced approraitely.  We have been playing around here and find that the Maximus rules work fine for all three of those – so we have our smaller game without different rules while having Pacto and Megan as is for those playing them.  We recently ran a 3 game one-dayer at 8000 and it worked well.  More options and variety.
 
The end result will be that the rules are then locked with Helion in hard print and we can enjoy playing them while working on other rulesets. I will be considering the MeG development journey complete at that stage and will, be focusing development time on WW2 and Napoleonics (which Helion are also interested in publishing so all CCC system games end up there).
 
I hope that sets enough context for you all and look forward to discussing with some of you online at Zoom (BTW you don't need to have Zoom – just a computer, phone etc.) or at events like Helvetica.

"I am delighted to announce that we will be publishing vs 2.0 of Mortem et Gloriam with Helion Publishing  & Company.  The likelihood is that the rules will be available for the 2028 season.  Check out the Helion website https://www.helion.co.uk  where you will see they have already expanded out of their traditional renaissance period with titles such as War of the Three Kingdoms (189-238CE) and a great looking one on the Khmer on its way.
 
Over recent years MeG has evolved in a very positive way and I feel we are in a very good pace to lock them down for 10 years of enjoyable gaming. With that solidity in place we will be aiming to grow the playing community. Helion's ability to distribute worldwide and their attendance at shows will give the game presence.
 
In addition to the rulebook, we will have a Great Armies of The Ancient World book which will have 16-20 pairings of armies with some history and ready-made armies to play.  New and casual players can use this to pick and play without needing to use the army lists at all.  The full army lists remain online and free to all – and at 650 armies stands as the best researched set of army lists ever – the "Listipedia" for the ancient world thanks to the hard work and enthusiasm, in particular, of Richard Jeffrey-Cook and Nik Gaukroger.
 
I look forward to working with Helion to extend our relationship beyond the already successful Renatio et Gloriam collaboration, and given the range of history they are now covering perhaps even more ... 

'Working with the CCC Games team has been a tremendously positive experience and we at Helion are looking forward to producing the new edition of Mortem et Gloriam.'
Charles Singleton Creative Director, Helion and Company
 

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Premier Inn
local at the cricket club.  Just over the bridge.  Walkable to the games shop without figures. Easy parking. Food there and opposite.
Premier Inn Central

Travel Lodge
In Cathedral Square where we book dinner Sat and Sunday night.  Great location.  Multi-story car park.  Walkable to venue.  Loads of bars nearby.

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Quote from: Fredericksdownfall on March 07, 2023, 08:55:19 PMNewmarket and Ely Wargames Society (NEWS)

Mortem et Gloriam
Only a couple of us play Mortem et Gloriam at the moment and we are very much new to it. Trying to increase interest and attract new players

Other Games
Also Bolt Action, To The Strongest, To the Strangest (TTS fantasy variant we developed), Sword and Spear, King of the Battlefield, Cruel Seas, Black Seas, Seven Days to the Rhine, Iron Cross, Flames of War, Lion Rampant, Dragon Rampant, Xenos Rampant, Stargrave, Wot a Tanker, DAK Attack, Donnybrook etc etc. To be honest we seem to play so many different rule sets my head spins

Dates
Meet generally Thu night 6.30-10pm, Victoria Hall, Fordham, Cambridgeshire
Every 3rd or 4th month we organise an all weekend  session of games when we get visitors from Yorkshire as well as London

Members
Around 12 regulars but with a wider more occasional group of about 25. We also have RPG players use the hall at the same time (helps keep costs down). New members always welcome, especially as some of us are starting to get a bit long in the tooth

Contact
Contact me (Jimmy Carter) at fredericksdownfall@gmail.com for more information

Must pay you a visit sometime.

S

Just follow the sequence - it solves it all for you.

I prefer once the front is out you are out but agree should be the same for all effects. Movement and cover and combat.

S

Wychbold A paid and entered.

Simon Hall
Matt McVeigh
Malcolm Barnfield.

Wychbold 1 pending

Si

Live for bookings now at the BH site

https://battlefieldhobbies.co.uk/our-events/mortem-et-gloriam-skull-rollers/

Event Details

Maximus 10,000pts entirely open – any army from any list.
Prizes for 1-5th plus best army and best terrain. Presentation 1645.
Playing for the magnificent 54mm Roman diorama World Championship Trophy –  be another heroic name on the trophy.


2 x 3.15hr games per day: 
Saturday 0930-1245, 1330-1645;
Sunday 0900-1215, 1300-1615.

List checker: Simon Hall simon.hall@newworld-valuecreation.com lists to be provided in the Army Builder (please send full spreadsheet not just the print page) and due in by Friday 2nd October 2026.

Event Organiser:  Simon Hall – MeG Creator  simon@mortem-et-gloriam.co.uk

Ticket includes a packed lunch each day, please notify us of any dietary requirements


Si

Just to let you all know, for a little while now I have been working with the inner team on an official vs 2.0 for MeG.  It is great to see some of the 2026 tweaks being popular as they will form part of it. The plan is to have it out to allow use in 2028 events, but we are not committing to a specific timeframe as we will do it when it is spot on.  We will release proposals for testing in advance of finalising them. In headline terms we are going to:

1.      Reduce complexity and remove unnecessary elements that rarely feature.
2.      Tweak some interactions.
3.      Create stronger differentiation between drilled, formed and tribal.
4.      Add a few newbies to be announced nearer the time.

All of this is intended to improve the feel and fun we get from the game still further and make it more accessible.  As ever, we will be listening to ideas on the forum.  Rest assured we will ensure that we have it right and safe to avoid doing damage to what is already a great game.  So far I am liking where we are heading and with the amends in testing already feels like a proper vs 2.0 we can then market.

Thank you as ever for your enthusiasm. More from us when the time is right.  In the meantime, all the feedback on the current tweaks is invaluable.  Onwards and upwards

Si

I'm in

Si

I'm in.  And I have a house 1 1/2 hour form you that sleeps 12!!

Si

Place holder for diary.

Will be usual Open 10,000 any lists.
5 games.

Si

Those in the EU can now get Mortem et Gloriam accessories from WoFun games in Romania within he EU.

Si

Thank you Richard. It has indeed. 
CCC games website now in progress to encompass everything.

S