Warfare – 16th/17th November
Rise and Fall of the Chariot
10,000 points
Lists from: Sumer and Akkad, Egypt and Hatti, Assyria and Babylon, and Mandate of Heaven.
Any allies must also be drawn from those list sets.
List checker: Nik Gaukroger; nikgaukroger@blueyonder.co.uk ; please submit list as the entire army builder spreadsheet (not just the print page)
List deadline: Friday 8th November
4 games, 6' x 4' tables (NB actual tables at the venue may be deeper so adjust accordingly)
Venue: Rivermead Leisure Centre, Richfield Ave, Reading, Berkshire, RG1 8EQ
Game timing: Games to be 3 hours; when time is called finish the phase you are playing and then the game ends.
Timetable
Saturday
Check-in: 8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and "let the games begin")
Round 1: 9.30 am to 12.30 pm
Lunch: 12.30 pm to 1.30 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find someone to take an order for you)
Round 2: 1.30 pm to 4.30 pm
Sunday
Round 3: 9.00 am to 12.00 pm (n.b. earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.00 pm to 1.00 pm
Round 4: 1.00 pm to 4.00 pm
Prizegiving: As soon as we can work it out!
Organiser: Ray Duggins
Chariots still?
Tickets now on sale and selling quickly.
Ticket bought, must finish my last 16 chariots....
#doinganemsen
Got one. Wheelbarrow pulled by donkey army ::)
Do we know what the theme is?
Have a ticket............... now need an army!
Any list from the Chariot period lists.
I guess
Tickets sold out already,
Various influencers are asking for more.
Message from Tim:
Hi Will, I have no idea. Depends on other themes and whether they sell out.
It's bleedin' ridiculous. FoG sold out in 3 days, DBMM 15 and 25mm in a week. The MeG players have been very slow off the mark in taking a fortnight! 😉
If people email tournaments@wargamesreading.co.uk, David will put their names on the waiting list.
I have no idea if i have entered or not, and cant get a response from them...
well, I am in
Its the 3 chariot books
are we limited to those for allies too?
are there date limits?
As I understand it, it is the 3 Chariot List sets AND "Mandate of Heaven" from the Asian lists.
Richard
Alasdair has confirmed that RJC is correct.
It is, the 3 Chariot List sets AND "Mandate of Heaven" from the Asian lists.
Initial post updated with details.
Any runners for this? 8)
With whom?
The people who have booked.
Comp details updated with "Games to be 3 hours; when time is called finish the phase you are playing and then the game ends."
'Unless you are Ray, who will bitch about it until a week later!'
Quote from: mad lemmey on October 09, 2019, 06:33:51 PM
'Unless you are Ray, who will bitch about it until a week later!'
Errrrrr sanity is restored
Here is the official info that is going on the Warfare website (at last) - pretty much as in the first post in this topic for the comp, plus some other useful bits and pieces 8)
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Warfare 2019 MEG
1. Theme: Rise and Fall of the Chariot
10,000 Points
Any list from Sumer and Akkad, Egypt and Hatti, Assyria and Babylon & Mandate of Heaven. Any allies must also be drawn from those lists.
2. Entries
All entries must be booked through the Warfare website. The organisers reserve the right in their absolute discretion to transfer unsold seats if there is a waiting list for another ruleset.
E-mail enquiries: may be sent to David Clubley (tournaments@wargamesassociationreading.co.uk) or Tim Child (tjp.child@gmail.com).
Admission to the tournament is at the sole discretion of the organisers and their decision on all matters is final. An application to enter denotes acceptance of these rules.
3. Rules
The rules to be used are the relevant published Mortem et Gloriam rules, together with the published errata at the date of the event (see http://www.thewargameszone.org/41/Latest-Rule-Materials).
4. Lists
The list-checker will be Nik Gaukroger; nikgaukroger@blueyonder.co.uk; please submit list as the entire army builder spreadsheet (not just the print page), to be submitted by email only.
The list submitted must not exceed the points specified and as permitted by the Theme.
The competition is single list format. Any incorrect list discovered after a game has commenced (after set up dice have been rolled) must be corrected prior to deployment if spotted in time, and fully corrected in any case before the next match.
Army lists must be submitted for checking in advance and must be received by Nik not later than 8 November 2019.
5. Timetable
Saturday
Check-in: 8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and "let the games begin")
Round 1: 9.30 am to 12.30 pm
Lunch: 12.30 pm to 1.30 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find someone to take an order for you)
Round 2: 1.30 pm to 4.30 pm
Sunday
Round 3: 9.00 am to 12.00 pm (n.b. earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.00 pm to 1.00 pm
Round 4: 1.00 pm to 4.00 pm
Prizegiving: As soon as we can work it out!
Tables will be numbered and the draw for the next round will be published as soon as we can. Once they know their opponent, players can always commence games earlier by mutual consent.
6. Competition rules
i. The scoring system will be the standard MEG tournament system.
ii. A modified Swiss Chess system will operate throughout the competition. Players may not play against fellow club players in the first 2 rounds, nor players whom they have played in earlier rounds, nor against any relatives in the first degree of consanguinity. Thus an entrant cannot be matched against his/her spouse, parent, brother, sister, and/or child (unless both entrants specifically inform us beforehand that you would like to have this rule disapplied to yourselves).
iii. Players must fully define their troops as they are placed on table. Figures must provide a reasonably accurate representation of the troops they are trying to represent – they must not look deliberately misleading.
iv. Table size: The tables will be approximately 6' x 4' (the tables may be slightly narrower than 6' due to the width of the marking tape, and will be played to the width of the cloths provided). Players must supply their own terrain pieces. These must be to an acceptable standard, and umpires will have the discretion to remove unsightly items. In addition all figures must be representative and painted and based to an acceptable standard.
v. Players must be present and ready to start the match at the appointed time. Where a player has a reasonable excuse for arriving late the match start will be delayed by up to 15 minutes, after which time the affected player will be awarded a bye.
vi. If a player resigns from a game at any stage after the first set-up dice have been rolled the game will be scored as if the resigning player's army had been broken at that point. Players are expected to play their games to a conclusion if they may have any relevance to final placings, as a courtesy to other competitors.
vii. Time will be called after about 3 hours. The random factor will be determined by the umpire prior to the start of the round, and will not be revealed until the announcement is made. Players may always commence games earlier than the stated time by mutual consent.
MeG Competitors at WARFARE 2019
If you are unable to attend please shout as there is a waiting list.
Thanks
Ray
MEG
# Name
1 Andrew Claxton
2 Adrian Nash
3 Lance Flint
4 Simon Elliot
5 Richard Jeffery-Cook
6 Peter Cross
7 Jason Broomer
8 Will Denham
9 Ian Newell
10 Pete Simpson
11 James McMieken
12 Laurance Donohoe
13 Stephen Stead
14 Robin Spence
15 Ray Duggins
16 Bruce Rollett
17 David Parish
18 Mark Spratt
19 Peter Entwistle
20 Paul Cummings
Good crowd
Reminder.
List checker: Nik Gaukroger; nikgaukroger@blueyonder.co.uk ; please submit list as the entire army builder spreadsheet (not just the print page)
List deadline: Friday 8th November
Quote from: nikgaukroger on November 03, 2019, 10:11:37 PM
Reminder.
List checker: Nik Gaukroger; nikgaukroger@blueyonder.co.uk ; please submit list as the entire army builder spreadsheet (not just the print page)
List deadline: Friday 8th November
Today is list deadline day.
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
Douglas Adams
Player Club Army Date List Book
Andrew Claxton Clevedon Early Spring and Autumn Chinese 750 BCE Mandate of Heaven
Adrian Nash Medway Nubian 2310 BCE Sumer and Akkad
Lance Flint Farnborough Lydian 666 BCE Assyrian and Babylon
Simon Elliot Medway Neo-Assyrian Empire 740 BCE Assyria and Babylon
Richard Jeffery-Cook Farnborough Neo-Assyrian Empire 726 BCE Assyria and Babylon
Peter Cross Maidstone Hittite Empire 1275 BCE Egypt and Hatti
Jason Broomer Reigate Assyrian 801 BCE Assyria and Babylon
Will Denham MKWS Mitanni 1595 BCE Egypt and Hatti
Ian Newell Salisbury Green Trojan War - Achaean 1190 BCE Egypt and Hatti
Matt Haywood K9 Kushite Egyptian 670 BCE Assyrian and Babylon
James McMieken Salisbury Green Median Empire 610 BCE Assyria and Babylon
Laurence Donohoe Bournemouth Mitanni 1440 BCE Egypt and Hatti
Stephen Stead Reigate Early Iranian 640 BCE Assyria and Babylon
Robin Spence Bournemouth Minoan & Early Mycenaean 1500 BCE Egypt and Hatti
Ray Duggins Reigate Isin-Larsa 1762 BCE Sumer and Akkad
Bruce Rollett Oxford New Kingdom Egyptian 1170 BCE Egypt and Hatti
David Parish Reigate Early Arab 620 BCE Assyria and Babylon
Mark Spratt MKWS Minoan and Early Mycenaean 1600 BCE Egypt and Hatti
Peter Entwistle Lancashire The Five Hegemons 643 BCE Mandate of Heaven
Paul Cummings MKWS Cimmerian 676 BCE Assyria and Babylon
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Well, that's eclectic!
Nice mix. I see comp favourites Jason and RJC are both Assyrian!!! Must look at list Will the CID stop them 🤞
Nubian looks terrifying
They are all terrifying!
Hope it's not exceptional battle chariot territory!
Long spears with Shield Cover look promising if anyone has those.
S
Mark and Robin then!
All too easy for the Minoan & Early Mykenaian to be an army that doesn't lose, but doesn't win either IMO. We'll have to see if Mark & Robin can lift it above that ...
No pressure then LOL
Just need to be aggressive with them.
Think win. Think Triumph.
A lot will depend on their command structures and ability to prompt through fire.
Should be great competition and photos should be amazing.
Say hello to my PSC friends while I am there. They are probably going not come along and take photos.
S
If you are eagerly awaiting the WARFARE draw we are in the hands of Tim and the WARFARE Team.
The Draw ...
(https://i.imgur.com/tWcP65h.jpg?1)
"Redraw!" ;)
The draw has been changed and Niks post above has been edited to reflect the changes and is correct.
Players affected by the change are;
Stephen Steads
Simon Elliot
Matt Haywood
Peter Cross
I ran it all through my very sophisticated Mortem et Gloriam simulator taking account fo armies and generals and came to Pete Entwistle as the likely winner. ;D ;)
Si
That's Pete screwed then :o
I was screwed before he even mentioned my name
In last nights game vs Geoff's Cimmerians my shoot and charge chariots were nasty :) ;)
Oh help! :'(
Just in case Warfare players aren't reading the emails I send. This from the organisers;
"Hopefully many of you are already aware, but there are major roadworks on the M4 this weekend. The M4 is fully closed between junctions 6 to 8/9 from 8pm Friday 15th November to 6am Monday 18th November - yes the entire weekend (they are replacing a bridge, which would be quite cool to watch if you are an engineering nerd, but you can't get to it because the M4 is closed :wink: ).
Please factor this in to your travel plans!
See you all on Saturday morning,
Tim Child"
An excellent competition with a wide range of armies proving competitive.
1st Jason Bloomer
2nd Lance Flint
3rd Ade Nash
Well done to everyone involved.
So the current version of battlechariots performed Ok but didn't dominate, even in a biblical theme (2 of the top 3 aren't chariot armies).
Did players come away feeling battlechariots needed to change?
Martin
Quote from: lionheartrjc on November 17, 2019, 07:13:12 PM
An excellent competition with a wide range of armies proving competitive.
1st Jason Bloomer
2nd Lance Flint
3rd Ade Nash
Well done to everyone involved.
Well done to Jason, Lance and Ade.
20/15/10 Lurkio freebies when you are ready. Just place and order and I will refund.
Congratulations Lance also on the Tidy Table award.
Who won the best terrain and best army?
Si
Best terrain Matt Heywood
Tidy Table Lance
10th place mediocrity, me! It even had a prize attached...
Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on November 18, 2019, 06:46:18 AM
Quote from: lionheartrjc on November 17, 2019, 07:13:12 PM
An excellent competition with a wide range of armies proving competitive.
1st Jason Bloomer
2nd Lance Flint
3rd Ade Nash
Well done to everyone involved.
Well done to Jason, Lance and Ade.
20/15/10 Lurkio freebies when you are ready. Just place and order and I will refund.
Congratulations Lance also on the Tidy Table award.
Who won the best terrain and best army?
Si
This is incorrect. I will send Simon the list of Lurkio prize winners.
Many thanks.
Great to see such diversity of armies doing well.
Top 3:
Assyrian
Lydian
Nubian
Si
Meant to do this earlier, but here is a Dropbox link to the army lists used at Warfare 2019 - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w6x0h5r8o4siibg/AAC3DxOUagh5RtcgyS_gb6PTa?dl=0
Of course, some of the lists have changed for 2020 and so have the points 8)
Show me a list that hasn't! ;D
Has anybody got the results in a non photograph format?
I'd be quite happy if those results never made it into the statistics (...... ****ing Early Arabs.......!)
(sorry I know that's not much help)
But it was very pretty Doctor.