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Title: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Administrator on December 17, 2018, 11:29:05 AM
Warfare – 16th/17th November

Rise and Fall of the Chariot

10,000 points

Lists from: Sumer and Akkad, Egypt and Hatti, Assyria and Babylon, and Mandate of Heaven.

Any allies must also be drawn from those list sets.

List checker: Nik Gaukroger; nikgaukroger@blueyonder.co.uk ; please submit list as the entire army builder spreadsheet (not just the print page)

List deadline: Friday 8th November

4 games, 6’ x 4’ tables (NB actual tables at the venue may be deeper so adjust accordingly)

Venue: Rivermead Leisure Centre, Richfield Ave, Reading, Berkshire, RG1 8EQ

Game timing: Games to be 3 hours; when time is called finish the phase you are playing and then the game ends.

Timetable

Saturday
Check-in:   8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and “let the games begin”)
Round 1:   9.30 am to 12.30 pm
Lunch:  12.30 pm to 1.30 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find someone to take an order for you)
Round 2:  1.30 pm to 4.30 pm

Sunday
Round 3:  9.00 am to 12.00 pm (n.b. earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.00 pm to 1.00 pm
Round 4:  1.00 pm to 4.00 pm

Prizegiving:  As soon as we can work it out!

Organiser: Ray Duggins
Title: Re: Warfare - November -TBC
Post by: mad lemmey on December 19, 2018, 12:09:30 PM
Chariots still?
Title: Re: 2019-11-16/17 - Warfare
Post by: lionheartrjc on February 19, 2019, 04:58:13 PM
Tickets now on sale and selling quickly.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on February 23, 2019, 10:02:49 AM
Ticket bought, must finish my last 16 chariots....
#doinganemsen
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Robin on February 27, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
Got one. Wheelbarrow pulled by donkey army ::)
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: steads on February 28, 2019, 09:01:31 AM
Do we know what the theme is?
Have a ticket............... now need an army!
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on February 28, 2019, 12:45:02 PM
Any list from the Chariot period lists.
I guess
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on March 02, 2019, 11:32:47 AM
Tickets sold out already,
Various influencers are asking for more.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on March 02, 2019, 08:59:44 PM
Message from Tim:
Hi Will, I have no idea. Depends on other themes and whether they sell out.

It's bleedin' ridiculous.  FoG sold out in 3 days, DBMM 15 and 25mm in a week. The MeG players have been very slow off the mark in taking a fortnight! 😉

If people email tournaments@wargamesreading.co.uk, David will put their names on the waiting list.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: DracoStandard on May 25, 2019, 03:25:14 PM
I have no idea if i have entered or not, and cant get a response from them...
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: DracoStandard on September 05, 2019, 12:13:50 PM
well, I am in


Its the 3 chariot books

are we limited to those for allies too?

are there date limits?
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: lionheartrjc on September 05, 2019, 01:19:09 PM
As I understand it,  it is the 3 Chariot List sets AND "Mandate of Heaven" from the Asian lists.

Richard
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on September 24, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
Alasdair has confirmed that RJC is correct.

It is, the 3 Chariot List sets AND "Mandate of Heaven" from the Asian lists.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 07, 2019, 04:21:29 PM
Initial post updated with details.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on October 09, 2019, 07:31:59 AM
Any runners for this?   8)
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on October 09, 2019, 08:24:56 AM
Any runners for this?   8)

It’s full.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on October 09, 2019, 08:30:24 AM
With whom?
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 09, 2019, 08:32:59 AM
The people who have booked.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on October 09, 2019, 08:44:06 AM
With whom?

Usual suspects and a suspect waiting list
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 09, 2019, 06:19:02 PM
Comp details updated with "Games to be 3 hours; when time is called finish the phase you are playing and then the game ends."
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on October 09, 2019, 06:33:51 PM
'Unless you are Ray, who will bitch about it until a week later!'
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on October 09, 2019, 09:02:54 PM
'Unless you are Ray, who will bitch about it until a week later!'

Errrrrr sanity is restored
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 14, 2019, 06:02:35 PM
Here is the official info that is going on the Warfare website (at last) - pretty much as in the first post in this topic for the comp, plus some other useful bits and pieces  8)

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Warfare 2019 MEG


1.   Theme:  Rise and Fall of the Chariot

10,000 Points

Any list from Sumer and Akkad, Egypt and Hatti, Assyria and Babylon & Mandate of Heaven.  Any allies must also be drawn from those lists.

2.   Entries

All entries must be booked through the Warfare website.  The organisers reserve the right in their absolute discretion to transfer unsold seats if there is a waiting list for another ruleset. 
 
E-mail enquiries: may be sent to David Clubley (tournaments@wargamesassociationreading.co.uk) or Tim Child (tjp.child@gmail.com).

Admission to the tournament is at the sole discretion of the organisers and their decision on all matters is final. An application to enter denotes acceptance of these rules.

3.   Rules

The rules to be used are the relevant published Mortem et Gloriam rules, together with the published errata at the date of the event (see http://www.thewargameszone.org/41/Latest-Rule-Materials).

4.   Lists

The list-checker will be Nik Gaukroger; nikgaukroger@blueyonder.co.uk; please submit list as the entire army builder spreadsheet (not just the print page), to be submitted by email only.

The list submitted must not exceed the points specified and as permitted by the Theme.

The competition is single list format. Any incorrect list discovered after a game has commenced (after set up dice have been rolled) must be corrected prior to deployment if spotted in time, and fully corrected in any case before the next match.

Army lists must be submitted for checking in advance and must be received by Nik not later than 8 November 2019.

5.   Timetable

Saturday
Check-in:   8.30 am to 9.15 am (The earlier everyone gets here, the earlier we can get through check-in and “let the games begin”)
Round 1:   9.30 am to 12.30 pm
Lunch:  12.30 pm to 1.30 pm (meals are available from the café on site, but there can be long waits – if possible, find someone to take an order for you)
Round 2:  1.30 pm to 4.30 pm

Sunday
Round 3:  9.00 am to 12.00 pm (n.b. earlier start-time than Saturday)
Lunch: 12.00 pm to 1.00 pm
Round 4:  1.00 pm to 4.00 pm
Prizegiving:  As soon as we can work it out!

Tables will be numbered and the draw for the next round will be published as soon as we can.  Once they know their opponent, players can always commence games earlier by mutual consent.


6.   Competition rules

i.   The scoring system will be the standard MEG tournament system.

ii.   A modified Swiss Chess system will operate throughout the competition. Players may not play against fellow club players in the first 2 rounds, nor players whom they have played in earlier rounds, nor against any relatives in the first degree of consanguinity. Thus an entrant cannot be matched against his/her spouse, parent, brother, sister, and/or child (unless both entrants specifically inform us beforehand that you would like to have this rule disapplied to yourselves).

iii.   Players must fully define their troops as they are placed on table. Figures must provide a reasonably accurate representation of the troops they are trying to represent – they must not look deliberately misleading.

iv.   Table size:  The tables will be approximately 6' x 4' (the tables may be slightly narrower than 6’ due to the width of the marking tape, and will be played to the width of the cloths provided).  Players must supply their own terrain pieces. These must be to an acceptable standard, and umpires will have the discretion to remove unsightly items. In addition all figures must be representative and painted and based to an acceptable standard.

v.   Players must be present and ready to start the match at the appointed time. Where a player has a reasonable excuse for arriving late the match start will be delayed by up to 15 minutes, after which time the affected player will be awarded a bye.

vi.   If a player resigns from a game at any stage after the first set-up dice have been rolled the game will be scored as if the resigning player’s army had been broken at that point. Players are expected to play their games to a conclusion if they may have any relevance to final placings, as a courtesy to other competitors.

vii.   Time will be called after about 3 hours. The random factor will be determined by the umpire prior to the start of the round, and will not be revealed until the announcement is made. Players may always commence games earlier than the stated time by mutual consent.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on October 16, 2019, 07:53:54 PM
MeG Competitors at WARFARE 2019

If you are unable to attend please shout as there is a waiting list.

Thanks

Ray

MEG      
#   Name   
1   Andrew   Claxton
2   Adrian   Nash
3   Lance   Flint
4   Simon   Elliot
5   Richard   Jeffery-Cook
6   Peter           Cross
7   Jason   Broomer
8   Will           Denham
9   Ian           Newell
10   Pete           Simpson
11   James   McMieken
12   Laurance   Donohoe
13   Stephen   Stead
14   Robin   Spence
15   Ray           Duggins
16   Bruce   Rollett
17   David   Parish
18   Mark           Spratt
19   Peter           Entwistle
20   Paul           Cummings
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on October 16, 2019, 09:56:36 PM
Good crowd
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on November 03, 2019, 10:11:37 PM
Reminder.

List checker: Nik Gaukroger; nikgaukroger@blueyonder.co.uk ; please submit list as the entire army builder spreadsheet (not just the print page)

List deadline: Friday 8th November
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on November 08, 2019, 07:28:17 AM
Reminder.

List checker: Nik Gaukroger; nikgaukroger@blueyonder.co.uk ; please submit list as the entire army builder spreadsheet (not just the print page)

List deadline: Friday 8th November

Today is list deadline day.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 08, 2019, 12:56:03 PM
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
Douglas Adams
Title: Warfare - 2019 R&R
Post by: rayfredjohn on November 10, 2019, 11:44:03 AM
Player                      Club           Army                                             Date   List Book
Andrew Claxton           Clevedon           Early Spring and Autumn Chinese   750 BCE   Mandate of Heaven
Adrian Nash           Medway           Nubian                                          2310 BCE   Sumer and Akkad
Lance Flint                   Farnborough   Lydian                                          666 BCE   Assyrian and Babylon
Simon Elliot           Medway           Neo-Assyrian Empire                          740 BCE   Assyria and Babylon
Richard Jeffery-Cook   Farnborough   Neo-Assyrian Empire                          726 BCE   Assyria and Babylon
Peter Cross           Maidstone           Hittite Empire                                 1275 BCE   Egypt and Hatti
Jason Broomer           Reigate           Assyrian                                          801 BCE   Assyria and Babylon
Will Denham           MKWS           Mitanni                                         1595 BCE   Egypt and Hatti
Ian Newell                   Salisbury Green   Trojan War - Achaean                         1190 BCE   Egypt and Hatti
Matt Haywood           K9                   Kushite Egyptian                         670 BCE   Assyrian and Babylon
James McMieken   Salisbury Green   Median Empire                                 610 BCE   Assyria and Babylon
Laurence Donohoe   Bournemouth   Mitanni                                        1440 BCE   Egypt and Hatti
Stephen Stead           Reigate           Early Iranian                                  640 BCE   Assyria and Babylon
Robin Spence           Bournemouth   Minoan & Early Mycenaean                1500 BCE   Egypt and Hatti
Ray Duggins           Reigate           Isin-Larsa                                       1762 BCE   Sumer and Akkad
Bruce Rollett           Oxford           New Kingdom Egyptian                 1170 BCE   Egypt and Hatti
David Parish           Reigate           Early Arab                                         620 BCE   Assyria and Babylon
Mark Spratt           MKWS           Minoan and Early Mycenaean        1600 BCE   Egypt and Hatti
Peter Entwistle           Lancashire           The Five Hegemons                         643 BCE   Mandate of Heaven
Paul Cummings           MKWS           Cimmerian                                         676 BCE   Assyria and Babylon
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 10, 2019, 12:11:16 PM
Well, that's eclectic!
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Robin on November 10, 2019, 01:15:36 PM
Nice mix. I see comp favourites Jason and RJC are both Assyrian!!! Must look at list  Will the CID stop them  🤞
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: DracoStandard on November 10, 2019, 02:30:54 PM
Nubian looks terrifying
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 10, 2019, 03:46:32 PM
They are all terrifying!
Hope it's not exceptional battle chariot territory!
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on November 10, 2019, 05:53:03 PM
Long spears with Shield Cover look promising if anyone has those.

S
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 10, 2019, 07:28:01 PM
Mark and Robin then!
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on November 10, 2019, 07:41:07 PM
All too easy for the Minoan & Early Mykenaian to be an army that doesn't lose, but doesn't win either IMO. We'll have to see if Mark & Robin can lift it above that ...
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Robin on November 10, 2019, 07:43:25 PM
No pressure then LOL
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on November 11, 2019, 08:08:12 AM
Just need to be aggressive with them.
Think win.  Think Triumph.
A lot will depend on their command structures and ability to prompt through fire.

Should be great competition and photos should be amazing.

Say hello to my PSC friends while I am there.  They are probably going not come along and take photos.

S
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on November 11, 2019, 11:04:24 AM
If you are eagerly awaiting the WARFARE draw we are in the hands of Tim and the WARFARE Team.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on November 12, 2019, 08:44:19 PM
The Draw ...

(https://i.imgur.com/tWcP65h.jpg?1)
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 12, 2019, 11:31:19 PM
"Redraw!"  ;)
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on November 13, 2019, 08:42:03 AM
The draw has been changed and Niks post above has been edited to reflect the changes and is correct.


Players affected by the change are;

Stephen Steads
Simon Elliot
Matt Haywood
Peter Cross
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on November 13, 2019, 08:45:50 AM
I ran it all through my very sophisticated Mortem et Gloriam simulator taking account fo armies and generals and came to Pete Entwistle as the likely winner. ;D ;)

Si
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Robin on November 13, 2019, 09:15:10 AM
That's Pete screwed then  :o
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Kokor Hekkus on November 13, 2019, 12:12:23 PM
I was screwed before he even mentioned my name

In last nights game vs Geoff's Cimmerians my shoot and charge chariots were nasty  :) ;)
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 13, 2019, 12:41:28 PM
Oh help!  :'(
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on November 15, 2019, 08:10:33 AM
Just in case Warfare players aren’t reading the emails I send.  This from the organisers;


"Hopefully many of you are already aware, but there are major roadworks on the M4 this weekend. The M4 is fully closed between junctions 6 to 8/9 from 8pm Friday 15th November to 6am Monday 18th November - yes the entire weekend (they are replacing a bridge, which would be quite cool to watch if you are an engineering nerd, but you can't get to it because the M4 is closed  :wink: ).

Please factor this in to your travel plans!

See you all on Saturday morning,

Tim Child"

Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: lionheartrjc on November 17, 2019, 07:13:12 PM
An excellent competition with a wide range of armies proving competitive.

1st Jason Bloomer
2nd Lance Flint
3rd Ade Nash

Well done to everyone involved.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: martymagnificent on November 17, 2019, 11:46:08 PM
So the current version of battlechariots performed Ok but didn't dominate, even in a biblical theme (2 of the top 3 aren't chariot armies).

Did players come away feeling battlechariots needed to change?

Martin
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on November 18, 2019, 06:46:18 AM
An excellent competition with a wide range of armies proving competitive.

1st Jason Bloomer
2nd Lance Flint
3rd Ade Nash

Well done to everyone involved.

Well done to Jason, Lance and Ade.

20/15/10 Lurkio freebies when you are ready.  Just place and order and I will refund. 

Congratulations Lance also on the Tidy Table award.
Who won the best terrain and best army?

Si
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 18, 2019, 07:00:59 AM
Best terrain Matt Heywood
Tidy Table Lance

10th place mediocrity, me! It even had a prize attached...
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: rayfredjohn on November 18, 2019, 07:59:23 AM
An excellent competition with a wide range of armies proving competitive.

1st Jason Bloomer
2nd Lance Flint
3rd Ade Nash

Well done to everyone involved.

Well done to Jason, Lance and Ade.

20/15/10 Lurkio freebies when you are ready.  Just place and order and I will refund. 

Congratulations Lance also on the Tidy Table award.
Who won the best terrain and best army?

Si

This is incorrect. I will send Simon the list of Lurkio prize winners.
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on November 18, 2019, 11:53:34 AM
Many thanks.

Great to see such diversity of armies doing well. 

Top 3:
Assyrian
Lydian
Nubian

Si
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: nikgaukroger on November 22, 2019, 02:23:44 PM
Meant to do this earlier, but here is a Dropbox link to the army lists used at Warfare 2019 - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w6x0h5r8o4siibg/AAC3DxOUagh5RtcgyS_gb6PTa?dl=0

Of course, some of the lists have changed for 2020 and so have the points  8)
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 22, 2019, 05:24:18 PM
Show me a list that hasn't!  ;D
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: DracoStandard on November 30, 2019, 02:14:45 PM
Has anybody got the results in a non photograph format?
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: daveparish on November 30, 2019, 02:40:47 PM
I'd be quite happy if those results never made it into the statistics  (...... ****ing Early Arabs.......!)

(sorry I know that's not much help)
Title: Re: 2019-11-16 - Warfare - 16/17 November
Post by: mad lemmey on November 30, 2019, 02:43:56 PM
But it was very pretty Doctor.