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Started by rayfredjohn, December 06, 2019, 12:21:21 PM

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rayfredjohn

In uncharted territory, rule reading.

on 2020 QRS

EL +3 vs. tribal/formed close foot

Question;  does that mean +3 against Tribal or Formed that are close foot

or as my friend (honest doc) says - +3 against Tribal (any kind) and Formed close foot


Names have been withheld to protect the innocent

mad lemmey

It used to say non drilled  close, guess it means the same...
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nikgaukroger

Quote from: rayfredjohn on December 06, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Question;  does that mean +3 against Tribal or Formed that are close foot

This one. The alternative just gets silly when you consider the factors for Cv, etc. that follow the foot ones.

Not sure why it has been changed as I thought the old wording was clear. Then again i think this one is, just different.
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Quote from: nikgaukroger on December 06, 2019, 12:35:16 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on December 06, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Question;  does that mean +3 against Tribal or Formed that are close foot

This one. The alternative just gets silly when you consider the factors for Cv, etc. that follow the foot ones.

Not sure why it has been changed as I thought the old wording was clear. Then again i think this one is, just different.

as i read it it is close tribal and close formed
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badhabum

It is pretty clear : +3 vs close units that are tribal or formed ...read the rest of the line on the QRS makes it pretty clear

Simon Meg-Meister

Nomenclature is

/ means take as a group of alternatives.
So its either of them

So
tribal/formed close = means tribal close or formed close.
tribal or formed close = would mean any tribal or formed close

Hoping have got all the / correct on that basis. but open to finding any that are not.

It used to be non-drilled close and trying to avoid negatives. Thought it clearer and easier to say tribal/formed and avoid the non.

Si
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PS your still a friend Ray Duggins  ;)
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rayfredjohn


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The solidus is OK to substitute for 'or' but the confusion is the "close foot" which you could argue to be a compound word in this case to avoid ambiguity

tribal/formed close-foot   would be technically better

Parses as (Tribal or Formed) and (Close foot)

Simon Meg-Meister

I'll have to ponder that ...

S
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AntiokosIII

Quote from: Administrator on December 07, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
The solidus is OK to substitute for 'or' but the confusion is the "close foot" which you could argue to be a compound word in this case to avoid ambiguity

tribal/formed close-foot   would be technically better

Parses as (Tribal or Formed) and (Close foot)

It would be more technically correct, but the usage is so rare that fewer people would understand it, IMHO.
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rayfredjohn

Quote from: mad lemmey on December 06, 2019, 12:27:57 PM
It used to say non drilled  close, guess it means the same...

We were trying not to guess

rayfredjohn

Quote from: badhabum on December 06, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
It is pretty clear : +3 vs close units that are tribal or formed ...read the rest of the line on the QRS makes it pretty clear

Not so sir.

badhabum

Quote from: rayfredjohn on December 07, 2019, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: badhabum on December 06, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
It is pretty clear : +3 vs close units that are tribal or formed ...read the rest of the line on the QRS makes it pretty clear

Not so sir.

OK vs tribal or formed  close FOOT to me it is clear  ;D

peter c

Thanks Ray, a friend in need is a friend indeed. Simon now knows why I have strange questions about the rules when I am proof reading as I have difficulty with symbols that are used in computing and mathematics to mean something in the middle of a sentence  :)