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Re: Bow cavalry in battle but with come heavies to help Moncheaux 2019
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2019, 05:41:15 PM »
If you need the punch (and most of us do) then don't pick an army without it - simples  ;D

Actually, I'd add that a chunk of "stodge" can also work wonders in a basically shooty cavalry army - basically something the opponent can't just push around.

I think I understand the meaning of the chunk of stodge- but not sure 100% - . If, as you write, we should choose not to pick an army without "punch" , then stop creating some . The rules work well but do the rules work in a 3 hour tournament . My answer would be yes and no . If the 2 players go for it , then it works. But with shooty armies on white dice, time is a bit short as you need time to roll the dice, wounds can be healed and so on.... Youn can weaken an army, but difficult to finish it . I am painting one of my favourite armies, the early byzantines. But it lacks the punch needed in a tournament . I made a proposal based on many reading and we will see what happens in 2020 . 8) . Now I am not the only one to think shooty mounted bows need something to go on . At Britcon, I was winning the first game after 3 hours, lost after something like 4 hours ( friday night ) and I faced some skilled shooters  ::). But the game was fun.
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Re: Bow cavalry in battle but with come heavies to help Moncheaux 2019
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2019, 09:20:39 PM »
I cert agree that the shooty Cavalry armies need a heavyweight unit. At the recent London GT, Richard won the event with Timurid s and Nik came 3rd with Sassanids. Both had Elephants, to deliver the punch. I just wish I was good enough to use them.

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Re: Bow cavalry in battle but with come heavies to help Moncheaux 2019
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2019, 02:34:31 PM »
Indeed. Change in part is seeking to encourage a bit more without them being too good.

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And the American armies with every man a shooter? They'll be getting slows all along the line. Shoot and charge troops will also be supreme skirmisher killers - even better than they already are. Will be interesting to see the result of this change. Once it's in it will be there for years...

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Re: Bow cavalry in battle but with come heavies to help Moncheaux 2019
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2019, 03:10:09 PM »
We will see. Only a few more days to wait . Shoot and charge can make for a bad day for skirmishers but then you must adapt  and perhaps choose fleeing or position your skirmishing cavalry a little bit better . Which is not always an easy feat.

In 2017, with nikephorians, I used the shoot and charge to get at skirmishing cavalry more than once .

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Re: Bow cavalry in battle but with come heavies to help Moncheaux 2019
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2019, 01:09:11 PM »
FWIW on of my most successful cavalry based armies was a Gallic with maximum average cavalry in 6s.

3x6 and 2x4 caused mayhem on a wing. by sheer weight of numbers.

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Re: Bow cavalry in battle but with come heavies to help Moncheaux 2019
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2019, 07:30:49 PM »
Yes but you also had some warbands that can just glue the enemy . It's not the same .

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Re: Bow cavalry in battle but with come heavies to help Moncheaux 2019
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2019, 10:12:00 AM »
Of course not total cavalry.
But  serious chunk of stodge flank.

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