foot cb standing to receive, charge only shooters

[tarnowski1]

couple of questions to replenish my memory.

1- foot crossbows standing to receive a charge only class an S as a wound for those files physically being contacted by an enemy base?
2- Charge only shooters standing to receive and choose to shoot, only shoot those files being contacted by enemy bases?

[nikgaukroger]

1. Yes; as shooting is done by file this effect is applied by file so it has to be a shooting file actually contacted by a charge.

2. Yes; as the Shoot and Charge characteristic description in Appendix 1 (PDF) states "files".

[Jilu]

so the 1 BW rule in the path of charge, for an overlapping base not being charged, does not apply?

[nikgaukroger]

It applies to whether files not being charged can shoot, but not to whether the S = Wound applies.

[Hayung_is]

So for super clarity;

1. the file must be getting charged to get the S=wound characteristic of Xbow.

2.a. Charge only shooters can shoot if the TuG is standing to receive and the path of charge is within 1BW of the file.
       or if they charge and are within range.
   b. Shoot and charge shoot if within 1bw of the path of charge just like regular shooters (because they are).

[Jilu]

So for super clarity;

1. the file must be getting charged to get the S=wound characteristic of Xbow.

2.a. Charge only shooters can shoot if the TuG is standing to receive and the path of charge is within 1BW of the file.
       or if they charge and are within range.
   b. Shoot and charge shoot if within 1bw of the path of charge just like regular shooters (because they are).

This seems clear now, thank you

[nikgaukroger]

So for super clarity;

1. the file must be getting charged to get the S=wound characteristic of Xbow.

Yes. (and standing to receive)

2.a. Charge only shooters can shoot if the TuG is standing to receive and the path of charge is within 1BW of the file.
       or if they charge and are within range.

Files of Charge Only shooters standing to receive can shoot when being charged - so this is basically the same as the crossbow case.

  b. Shoot and charge shoot if within 1bw of the path of charge just like regular shooters (because they are).

Indeed.

[nikgaukroger]

The characteristic definition for Shoot & Charge from the PDF to assist.

[daveparish]

So does that mean that a Charge only shooter 3 wide who charges a two wide opponent might only get two shots (the two files who contact)? Would you potentially need to do a cheesy wheel so that all three bases contacted the two enemy bases in order to get all your shooting?

[daveparish]

 I see that the "files"  part says when standing to receive or when charging. So it could mean that

[nikgaukroger]

When charging they use the usual rules for targets (see 1 in the description of the characteristic which mentions in arc) so it isn't just the bases that contact.

It is a tad messy to be honest 

[daveparish]

Are you sure? Point 6 in your quote above says when standing or charging

[Jilu]

imho it is complicating things, the standard rule application would be easier to apply, less exceptions

[daveparish]

imho it is complicating things, the standard rule application would be easier to apply, less exceptions

Sorry I don't quite understand, what is the standard rule application? (not trying to be rude, really don't understand)

[tarnowski1]

Are you sure? Point 6 in your quote above says when standing or charging

It does seem to suggest that shoot and charge shooters, shoot any one in arc and range as per 1 but charge only shooters are further limited to those that would make contact in the charge as per 6