Block charge partially intercepted or countercharged

[badhabum]

From another social media comes a question:

What happens if a block charge is partially intercepted or counter-charged ?

Does the whole charge stop at first contact or do the UGs continue individually ?

The question arrises as from memory, it has been stated that is one UG of a blocked charge is slowed down, the whole line is slowed down as UGs will try to keep formation (that's why you pay to block a charge)

So is blocking a charge really advantageous 

A secondary question would be : does a forced charge stops when one of the UGs makes contact ? or do the other UG's still charge forward ?

[nikgaukroger]

In 2 F 2 it states that only turn 90 degree moves can break up a block. To comply with that an UG within a block could, presumably, continue a charge if others were blocked, but would have to remain in a block which may limit their charge move to less than full.

Slows are a different specific mechanism per 7 I.

Forced charges cannot happen as a block as block moves are prompted whilst forced charges (or free charges) are not; so that question is moot.

[badhabum]

Forced charges cannot happen as a block as block moves are prompted whilst forced charges (or free charges) are not; so that question is moot.

I did not ask that question  there is a misunderstanding somewhere .

Now for the rest so a block must remain a block. Interesting results may occur

[nikgaukroger]

A secondary question would be : does a forced charge stops when one of the UGs makes contact ? or do the other UG's still charge forward ?

What did you mean by this question then? It is asking about multiple UGs forced charging as far as I can see. Given the question on block charges the context looks to be the same.

[lionheartrjc]

From another social media comes a question:

What happens if a block charge is partially intercepted or counter-charged ?

Does the whole charge stop at first contact or do the UGs continue individually ?

An UG in a block charge doesn't stop at the first contact of another UG in the block charge, but as Nik has pointed out, the move cannot break up the block, so the charging UG cannot move so that it is no longer in contact with an UG that has stopped at first contact.  (I actually think this was a situation that wasn't spotted and I think it might be better if all UGs continued their charge as normal - would welcome views on this).

Forced charges that are not held cannot be part of a block.  If a player block charges UGs that had a forced charge, it is a declared charge so the fact that it was originally a forced charge is irrelevant.

Richard

[nikgaukroger]

From another social media comes a question:

What happens if a block charge is partially intercepted or counter-charged ?

Does the whole charge stop at first contact or do the UGs continue individually ?

An UG in a block charge doesn't stop at the first contact of another UG in the block charge, but as Nik has pointed out, the move cannot break up the block, so the charging UG cannot move so that it is no longer in contact with an UG that has stopped at first contact.  (I actually think this was a situation that wasn't spotted and I think it might be better if all UGs continued their charge as normal - would welcome views on this).

I'd agree with you, I think this was something that was missed and has unintended consequences - but not overly impactful in actual game play I suspect.

[Wizard of Oz]

Regarding Block Charges, for what it is worth, I have always assumed, and have played it as such, that though the start may be as a Block, it is possible that as a consequence of a charge the components of (the former block) break up. I am aware that shooting at a Block can slow all of it down, but I see that as slightly different. By way of example, a Block charged javelin armed cavalry who evaded but with different throws so that one unit was caught but two would have been unreachable if the other two TUGs in the Block stayed where the other made contact.
I may have been wrong, but it seems sensible to me. Therefore, I'm on the side of continue the charge as normal.
Best Regards,

[badhabum]

A secondary question would be : does a forced charge stops when one of the UGs makes contact ? or do the other UG's still charge forward ?

What did you mean by this question then? It is asking about multiple UGs forced charging as far as I can see. Given the question on block charges the context looks to be the same.

Being tired and having concentrations problem does not help does it. I apologise 

It should have been : BLOCK charges

does a BLOCK charge stops when one of the UGs makes contact ? or do the other UG's still charge forward ?

[nikgaukroger]

Regarding Block Charges, for what it is worth, I have always assumed, and have played it as such, that though the start may be as a Block, it is possible that as a consequence of a charge the components of (the former block) break up. I am aware that shooting at a Block can slow all of it down, but I see that as slightly different. By way of example, a Block charged javelin armed cavalry who evaded but with different throws so that one unit was caught but two would have been unreachable if the other two TUGs in the Block stayed where the other made contact.
I may have been wrong, but it seems sensible to me. Therefore, I'm on the side of continue the charge as normal.
Best Regards,

Which breaks the rule that on a 90 degree turn can lead to a block move not remaining a block - 2 F 2 in the PDF version.

As Richard says it may be something that might be better different, but it is what the rule says.

[nikgaukroger]

A secondary question would be : does a forced charge stops when one of the UGs makes contact ? or do the other UG's still charge forward ?

What did you mean by this question then? It is asking about multiple UGs forced charging as far as I can see. Given the question on block charges the context looks to be the same.

Being tired and having concentrations problem does not help does it. I apologise 

It should have been : BLOCK charges

does a BLOCK charge stops when one of the UGs makes contact ? or do the other UG's still charge forward ?

No worries 

Think the question has been answered above.

[tarnowski1]

An UG in a block charge doesn't stop at the first contact of another UG in the block charge, but as Nik has pointed out, the move cannot break up the block, so the charging UG cannot move so that it is no longer in contact with an UG that has stopped at first contact.  (I actually think this was a situation that wasn't spotted and I think it might be better if all UGs continued their charge as normal - would welcome views on this).

Richard

my view- yes allow individual ugs in a block move to continue their charge as far as they can, allowing the block to break up. Slows affecting a single tug in the block still affect all as per current rules. All affected / all removed with cards.

[lionheartrjc]

I am prepared to issue an errata to 2:F.2 to allow a block charge to break up a block.  I think this is the way it would be instinctively played. 

The provisions of slowing and pressing through fire would remain unchanged.  Each UG in a block charge must charge in the same direction and UGs would individually comply to existing charge rules.

Can anyone see any issues with that?

Richard

[Wizard of Oz]

That's the way to go as far as I'm concerned.

[badhabum]

I am prepared to issue an errata to 2:F.2 to allow a block charge to break up a block.  I think this is the way it would be instinctively played. 

The provisions of slowing and pressing through fire would remain unchanged.  Each UG in a block charge must charge in the same direction and UGs would individually comply to existing charge rules.

Can anyone see any issues with that?

Richard

So a block charge could always be slowed down as a group but otherwise if intercepted, countercharged or hitting an unexpected enemy the way in the block moves and drops off the TUGs in contact an dif necessary but the others continue when possible .

OK for me