Sniveling little coward test

[Rino]

Hi!

A question from tonight game.

We have a charging lancer fighting in melee an enemy.
The general is fighting.

The unit is doing a break off.

Since the general was front line should the charging lancer unit make a KAB test for quitting combat (sniveling little coward test) assuming that the general is quitting combat as a result of the break off ?

Thx for the confirmation.

Cheers

Rino

[Jilu]

in my view not as it is the UG breaking off, not 'just' the general, the general is not leaving the battle on its own

[Rino]

This is also the way I understand it but I don't want ending up during a tournament with such question (too critical on the way using an army and too much time wasted getting the umpire around while we barely have 3h game)

An official clary would be welcomed

Thx in advance

Cheers

[badhabum]

Snivelling coward : the general leaves the file that is in combat

If the TUG break off no test 

[rayfredjohn]

This is also the way I understand it but I don't want ending up during a tournament with such question (too critical on the way using an army and too much time wasted getting the umpire around while we barely have 3h game)

An official clary would be welcomed

Thx in advance

Cheers

Think about it this way. The general is leaving the TuG to their own devices, having been fighting shoulder to shoulder with them in the front line.  This action sends a shock through the TuG and a test is needed.

[Simon Meg-Meister]

Snivelling coward : the general leaves the file that is in combat

If the TUG break off no test 

Is correct.
If the whole UG is moving he is simply following the "general may always move with an UG" rule.

Of course if you'd prefer to leave him behind ... 

S

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[Rino]

Thanks for the clarification Simon

[PUNCH]

Snivelling coward : the general leaves the file that is in combat

If the TUG break off no test 

he must have a KAB !! the rules chapter 9.8 B 2.2.3.5 page 97 "if an opposing general plays a card to leave combat then you get a KAB test on the UG (whether staying with the UG or not)."

you play a card to break off, so KAB!

[lionheartrjc]

No - the general plays a card for the unit to break off.

Richard

[nikgaukroger]

Basically the KaB is for a general being a coward and leaving the unit in the lurch - breaking off they are still all in it together.

[marshalney2000]

On the whole, a break off is more likely to raise a rousing cheer rather than disdain. Especiall6 if the cavalry were fighting an elephant.

[PUNCH]

No - the general plays a card for the unit to break off.

Richard

so if I break off with a unit who is fighting, I Don't leave the combat??

[PUNCH]

Basically the KaB is for a general being a coward and leaving the unit in the lurch - breaking off they are still all in it together.

it's not what is written in the rules page 97 but I can make a mistake when I read it.

Gilles "the elephant "

[nikgaukroger]

I think RJC has covered it in the technical way:

No - the general plays a card for the unit to break off.

Richard

As opposed to playing a card for the general to leave combat which is what the KaB section talks about.

[PUNCH]

I think RJC has covered it in the technical way:

No - the general plays a card for the unit to break off.

Richard

As opposed to playing a card for the general to leave combat which is what the KaB section talks about.

the opposing general plays a card when the opposing general leaves the front when he break off with the TUG or not
why using the whether or not in this case


Nellie the elephant