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Onurbm

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extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
« on: February 26, 2024, 09:41:51 AM »
He everybody

Is the note in the heads of list 4519 MING Chinese  applicable to allied contingent ? :
« At least 1/3 infantry TUG (excluding Southern auxiliaries) must be downgrade to poor . »

Sorry I did not find anywhere direct statement that it should or should not apply … anything I find is about « armies » but not « allied contingent ». As I may propose rational for either interpretation , better ask forum .
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Richard ? Intend ?


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Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2024, 09:49:20 AM »
Is the note in the heads of list 4519 MING Chinese  applicable to allied contingent ? :
« At least 1/3 infantry TUG (excluding Southern auxiliaries) must be downgrade to poor . »

I'd go with yes.
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Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2024, 12:43:23 PM »
Yes intentional even for allied contingents.

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Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2024, 09:55:06 PM »
Thanks to you both

Now further in same list I read :
Hand gunner formed close …..

I did not find other shooters as « close » so is this correct or should it be loose ?

I agree I am shortsighted and maybe did not read all 2024 lists with appropriate googles … but still , would you confirm / deny ?

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« Last Edit: February 27, 2024, 07:47:44 AM by Onurbm »
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Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2024, 12:24:12 PM »
It is deliberate but for the life of me I can't recall why  :o
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Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2024, 01:35:04 PM »
It is deliberate. The reason was a Chinese source implying they used some sort of volley system of fire to repel cavalry.  The whole loose/close formation is very dodgy in my opinion.

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Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2024, 10:16:11 AM »

Thanks fine . I will scratch build some nice bases crowded with gun shooters 🧙‍♂️🐯🐲🎋
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