When do you judge Shooting arc vs chargers?

[Simon Meg-Meister]

The simplest approach may be to allow only bases that come within 1BW of the charge path to fire, but to treat the shooting priorities as to which file they can shoot at to apply as the figures are when the shooting takes place (i.e. before the chargers have moved).  So, if the charge starts more than 1BW away, the shooters can target any file within their arc.  If within 1BW, at the file most to their front.  A shooting file which is within 1BW of the charge path, but not normally within arc, shoots at the file nearest to it.

Until instructed otherwise, this is how I would umpire it if asked.

Richard

I pondered that and the issue will be charges that wheel.  Take an extremen 90 towards a target.  The above might give them a shot at rear ranks when only the front ones are heading towards them.  Consider the ordonnance type knights with FArm from and prot rear or Samurai with poor ashigaru behind.

I think probably if there is any doubt, which mostly there isn't so lets not get too hung up on it, just shoot at whichever base comes within 1BW of the shooting file first according to the path of charge. 

RJC? thoughts?

S

[lionheartrjc]

I pondered that and the issue will be charges that wheel.  Take an extremen 90 towards a target.  The above might give them a shot at rear ranks when only the front ones are heading towards them.  Consider the ordonnance type knights with FArm from and prot rear or Samurai with poor ashigaru behind.

I think probably if there is any doubt, which mostly there isn't so lets not get too hung up on it, just shoot at whichever base comes within 1BW of the shooting file first according to the path of charge. 

RJC? thoughts?

S

I agree there is a danger of getting hung up on this. The only time I can see it will matter is if the front rank contains mixed types which is fairly uncommon. I would also always rule that you have to shoot at the front of the file unless you are already lined up to shoot at a rear rank wihin 1BW (which should resolve the 90 degree charge issue).

Richard

[Jilu]

so when will we get a final clarry ? to close the case?

[badhabum]

Why a clarry . the rules are pretty simple : the shooting is considered being done at 1 MU ...easy, simple ...

Do not open pandora's box .

Otherwise let's talk logic : if a unit charges 4 MU away to a unit that will skirmish but shoot at 1 MU, the charger has moved 3 MU, so the unit that skirmishes will be able to move a full move which is illogical as it took it's time to shoot for best effect at 1 MU  ...but as a rule it works fine ...

Changing it will only make matters more difficult .

A game is a game not a reenactment

[Simon Meg-Meister]

It is already done at effectively 1BW.
If I have understood the query it is which base does a file shoot at if more than one file comes within 1BW.

Like RJC I would always rule they shot at the front one and am happy with that.
And then if in doubt at the first one of those passing into 1BW of a shooting file.

Good enough?

Si

[nikgaukroger]

Works for me.

[Jilu]

It is already done at effectively 1BW.
If I have understood the query it is which base does a file shoot at if more than one file comes within 1BW.

Like RJC I would always rule they shot at the front one and am happy with that.
And then if in doubt at the first one of those passing into 1BW of a shooting file.

Good enough?

Si

yes, might be good to ad to the rules

[Simon Meg-Meister]

Added to my official clarries

Shooting at chargers, if target file is in doubt
Always shoot at the front base of any file.
If in doubt shoot t the first file whose path of charge comes within 1BW of shooting file.
There is non choice.