Combat claims and Loose order

[marek]

Hi

In playing a game yesterday a few queries arose as follows:

If devastating charger infantry are charged by cavalry do they get the devastating charger claim but suffer the foot not standing to receive claim ? Or do they stand and get neither claim or penalty ( assuming they have not declared a charge themselves)

When charged in the flank my understanding is that all combat claims are used to determine the dice, so devastating chargers would still get the combat claim when charged in the flank , likewise Roman legionnaires would get the impact weapon claim even when charged in the flank . Is this correct ?

Lastly what disadvantage is there for Flexible infantry when operating in loose order , other than if charged by cavalry. I.e Roman legionaries would be at no disadvantage in loose order in open terrain than if they were in close order ( other than if charged by cavalry). Would they be able to claim shield cover ?

Look forward to tidying up these queries ( in my head if nowhere else !)

[nikgaukroger]

If devastating charger infantry are charged by cavalry do they get the devastating charger claim but suffer the foot not standing to receive claim ? Or do they stand and get neither claim or penalty ( assuming they have not declared a charge themselves)

The infantry will get their claims and do not give the cavalry the + for foot not standing to receive - that only happens if the infantry declare a charge, countercharge or intercept.

When charged in the flank my understanding is that all combat claims are used to determine the dice, so devastating chargers would still get the combat claim when charged in the flank , likewise Roman legionnaires would get the impact weapon claim even when charged in the flank . Is this correct ?

No. See the QRS for Preferred Claims which states "All below claims can only be made when fighting to a files front".

Lastly what disadvantage is there for Flexible infantry when operating in loose order , other than if charged by cavalry. I.e Roman legionaries would be at no disadvantage in loose order in open terrain than if they were in close order ( other than if charged by cavalry). Would they be able to claim shield cover ?

Shield Cover is not dependent on formation so can be claimed when in Loose order. The other disadvantage along with the cavalry one you note is that Loose foot can give 2 deep Close formation foot Shove in the open even if these do not have the Shove characteristic.

[marek]

Thanks for clarifications , just want to check the last point - close order foot will get shove against loose order even if the close order don't have shove characteristic   - correct

[nikgaukroger]

Thanks for clarifications , just want to check the last point - close order foot will get shove against loose order even if the close order don't have shove characteristic   - correct

If in 2 ranks and in Good Going (see the characteristic definition on page 205).