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mikecobden

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Command and Deployment
« on: April 26, 2022, 05:44:44 PM »
I have a question about "Commands".

I am teaching myself the rules using the book, and two pacto starter armies (Rome and Gaul). My gauls are commanded by the recommended Legendary Instinctive Vitalstatistix, and when I placed my army, I assigned him the infantry you see in the image below as well as the three Cavalry TUGs on the wing in the rough.

As I am reviewing the rules, I see that Section B on page 91 says that his range is 8 BW, and "Professional generals can prompt actions for non-allied UGs outside their command but inside their command range by adding 1 extra coloured command card each time. Instinctive generals may NOT do so."

So. I get that this means he cannot command the UGs assigned to his subcommander Cetautomatix which happen to be within 8 BW.
1. does this mean that Vitalstatistix cannot command the cavalry on the right outside the 8 BW range at all?
2. does it mean that he can only command the UGs assigned to him at the start?
3. Was I required to place all UGs in his command within 8 BW at the deployment phase?
4. If an UG moves beyond the command range for a general, does that mean they are dead in the water when it comes to prompted actions?

Thanks!


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Re: Command and Deployment
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2022, 06:45:12 PM »
Learning the rules purely from the book is tough so feel free to ask these sort of questions.

1. Vitalstatistix can command UGs outside 8BW, but to do so will require an extra coloured (green, yellow or red) card to be played (see para 9 on page 91).
2. Yes.
3. No.  But it is generally a good idea.
4. No.  They can be commanded as per 1.  However you will soon eat up your cards this way.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Command and Deployment
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2022, 07:09:34 PM »
Thank you for this!

Paragraph 9 was what I quoted above, and as written it seems to say that Instinctive Generals may not prompt outside their range at all. I think the problem with the wording is that the first sentence is providing an additional rule to a rule (generals may prompt units outside their range for an additional cost) that is not expressly stated, and then saying that the exception applies only to professional generals, leaving the unstated rule for institctive.

I will continue to post here as I fumble through this, and greatly appreciate the help.


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Re: Command and Deployment
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2022, 10:07:28 PM »
Follow-up:

If Vitalstatistix wants to issue an order to block move that line of three Cav units, does he have to pay the additional card for out of command? One of the TUGs is within 8BW.

What does it mean to be w/in 8BW? any part of a base? The whole TUG/SUG?

Thanks Again!

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Re: Command and Deployment
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2022, 06:10:47 AM »
As long as a part of the block is within 8BW, no additional card is needed for being out of command, so a card for the action and a coloured card for the block is all that is required.
If the entire block is outside 8BW then three cards will be needed, a card for the action, a coloured card for the block and a coloured card for being out of command.

Richard

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Re: Command and Deployment
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2022, 12:22:22 PM »
This is a great example of how useful the forum is. Thank you both!