shoot & charge

[badhabum]

When you declare shoot & charge, you must be in charge range that is simple.

But from what distance are you  shooting as they tactic as I understand it is shooting at the last moment to disrupt the target? ( a SK target is considered has shooting from one MU so stays till the charger are near )

Also do you have to shoot at the file to your front or within shooting range and still in a target UG ?

[Francis Small]

Shoot & Charge shooting occurs immediately on charge declaration, and at the distance when the charge is declared. Normal targeting priority rules apply, so if outside 1 BW any base in range/arc can be targeted - although I assume you have to shoot at what you are charging.

[badhabum]

although I assume you have to shoot at what you are charging

Assume is the problem ..it seems it is written nowhere 

[Pyrrhus]

IMHO the suggestion that a TuG with Shoot and Charge can target an enemy TuG with missle fire that is not the target of the charge stretches both the rule and reality beyond the max. The intent of the rule seems crystal clear to me.

[Francis Small]

IMHO the suggestion that a TuG with Shoot and Charge can target an enemy TuG with missle fire that is not the target of the charge stretches both the rule and reality beyond the max. The intent of the rule seems crystal clear to me.

From the description for Shoot & Charge:

Shoot & Charge covers troops who were adept at firing a volley and following it with a charge to take immediate advantage of the effect of their shooting. The charge was still their primary fighting method, but with a softening up effect immediately beforehand.

If umpiring, I would happily rule that you must shoot at the unit you are charging, even if it's not written in the rules BECAUSE IT IS SO FREAKIN' OBVIOUS!!!

Sorry, back to my meds now...

[lionheartrjc]

From the description for Shoot & Charge:

Shoot & Charge covers troops who were adept at firing a volley and following it with a charge to take immediate advantage of the effect of their shooting. The charge was still their primary fighting method, but with a softening up effect immediately beforehand.

If umpiring, I would happily rule that you must shoot at the unit you are charging, even if it's not written in the rules BECAUSE IT IS SO FREAKIN' OBVIOUS!!!

Sorry, back to my meds now...

The question is why would you shoot at a unit that you weren't charging?  If there is sufficient tactical advantage in doing so, it seems reasonable to allow it.

Richard

[badhabum]

From the description for Shoot & Charge:

Shoot & Charge covers troops who were adept at firing a volley and following it with a charge to take immediate advantage of the effect of their shooting. The charge was still their primary fighting method, but with a softening up effect immediately beforehand.

If umpiring, I would happily rule that you must shoot at the unit you are charging, even if it's not written in the rules BECAUSE IT IS SO FREAKIN' OBVIOUS!!!

Sorry, back to my meds now...

The question is why would you shoot at a unit that you weren't charging?  If there is sufficient tactical advantage in doing so, it seems reasonable to allow it.

Richard

My initial question is much more simple : must the charger shoot at the base straigh to the front or may it shoot at the base on the side ?

The charger must shoot at the target of the charge but it might be more interesting to kill a base at one place for max effect and not the base just straigh forward .

[lionheartrjc]

The rules is the same for all types of shooting.  It must only shoot at the base directly to front if within 1BW.  At more than 1BW it may shoot to the file to the side  (same as other shooting).  There is nothing in the rules which says it must shoot at the target of the charge.

Richard

[Hunter]

A clarification would be helpful here folks. I'm not sure that this was the intent of the characteristic - useful as it would be to get 5 shots on an UG in the charge phase immediately before charging it.

[Hunter]

.... or not.

[Hunter]

"firing a volley and following it with a charge to take immediate advantage of the effect of their shooting" suggests to me that the shooting must be at the target of their charge.

[steads]

Like Richard, I see no reason to require that any or all of the shooting is at the charge target. As long as the shooting is at a target that is in arc and range of the charging/shooting base at the time of the charge declaration then all is good. There are many occasions where it would not be possible for all files of a charging unit to shoot at the target of the charge but could shoot at another target that they cannot contact: so why wouldn't they shoot?

[lionheartrjc]

I don't see any need for a clarification. The rules are as written - you cannot invent something that isn't written into the rules and then say it needs clarifying to remove it.

Richard

[Hunter]

The definition of the characteristic is in the rules.

[Hunter]

I'm dubious that the intent is an extra shooting bound for some UGs. It would appear to me that it might be to soften up the UG being charged.