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nikgaukroger

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Competition etiquette
« on: February 11, 2019, 10:29:20 AM »
Nicked from Ray's suggestion in the comp section - that players should bring

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a print out of the army from the pdf to show their opponent


With so many lists available it seems polite to bring a copy of the list your army comes from for an opponent to peruse if they should so desire.
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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2019, 01:20:58 PM »
I agree.

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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 01:23:50 PM »
Iím also interested at what point Allies are declared.

1. At the runners and riders stage. With date of army.
2. When you meet your opponent and tell them what you are using.
3. As a complete surprise when deploying your Army.

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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2019, 02:08:43 PM »
Iím also interested at what point Allies are declared.

1. At the runners and riders stage. With date of army.
2. When you meet your opponent and tell them what you are using.
3. As a complete surprise when deploying your Army.


Personally I think 3 is the way to go for the official R&R published.

Runners & Riders should give the name and date of your army with any relevent sub-division/geographic division - e.g. Mid Republican Roman 186 BCE in Asia.
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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2019, 02:34:42 PM »
Iím also interested at what point Allies are declared.

1. At the runners and riders stage. With date of army.
2. When you meet your opponent and tell them what you are using.
3. As a complete surprise when deploying your Army.


Personally I think 3 is the way to go for the official R&R published.

Runners & Riders should give the name and date of your army with any relevent sub-division/geographic division - e.g. Mid Republican Roman 186 BCE in Asia.

Nik, that means you have no knowledge of an ally until your opponent places it.  If you have the date and the correct pdf, you do have knowledge of the possibility of an ally.

If thatís what youíre saying, then I agree.

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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2019, 03:38:21 PM »
To be fair you only get one chance to surprise any body at a competition, and runners and riders give you the chance to understand the possibilities. Although i find not being surprised by the troops that are going to thrash me is only marginally better than not knowing ;D ;D
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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2019, 04:16:30 PM »
Nik, that means you have no knowledge of an ally until your opponent places it.  If you have the date and the correct pdf, you do have knowledge of the possibility of an ally.

If thatís what youíre saying, then I agree.

That is indeed what I am saying  ;D
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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2019, 10:13:36 PM »
Iím also interested at what point Allies are declared.

1. At the runners and riders stage. With date of army.
2. When you meet your opponent and tell them what you are using.
3. As a complete surprise when deploying your Army.

1 is a lot of extra work for the list checker as a lot of the info is not always clear on the list sent in.
My vote would be 2 or 3
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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 04:34:48 PM »
I would say 1 or 2

Writting the complete lists of runner and riders and just add the exact year + allies should take about 5 to 10 minutes so not really hard work  :)

And so everyone knows what !

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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2019, 05:05:59 AM »
Iím also interested at what point Allies are declared.

1. At the runners and riders stage. With date of army.
2. When you meet your opponent and tell them what you are using.
3. As a complete surprise when deploying your Army.

I vote for 3 for two reasons:-
A] Internal allies would be silly to do in the R&R ie Pilgrims with pilgrim allies and pilgrim allies
B] Sometimes the look on your opponent's face is priceless

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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2019, 05:08:23 AM »
I agree.

I too agree; I used to do so as a matter of course but nobody else did so I gave up.

What about Allies either potential or actual?

No axe to grind just wondering.

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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2019, 08:17:35 AM »
B] Sometimes the look on your opponent's face is priceless

And that is all the justification needed  ;D 8)
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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2019, 08:20:48 AM »
I agree.

I too agree; I used to do so as a matter of course but nobody else did so I gave up.

What about Allies either potential or actual?

No axe to grind just wondering.

Not too bothered about allies personally - especially as for some armies you'd have to print out quite a lot of lists.
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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2019, 07:19:58 PM »
I did some official comp rules before.

The answer is:
a) it did say everyone should have a copy of their armies army list to hand to opponents
b) 3 is the answer.  Page 42 8.  First time you know its an ally general is when the general goes down. Of course opponent might guess.

I will do a competition decorum section now.  Organised can print and pin up.  Circulate etc.

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Re: Competition etiquette
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2019, 07:36:33 PM »
I did some official comp rules before.

The answer is:
a) it did say everyone should have a copy of their armies army list to hand to opponents
b) 3 is the answer.  Page 42 8.  First time you know its an ally general is when the general goes down. Of course opponent might guess.

I will do a competition decorum section now.  Organised can print and pin up.  Circulate etc.

Si


Thanks Simon. I think this will help.