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badhabum

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Re: Skirmishing or running away
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2019, 01:12:48 PM »
What already happened sometimes is the following :

A TUG charges a SUG on the flank but from some distance . The SUG did a skirmish to the rear just enough to avoid being caught by the charging TUG .

So it ended facing the charger and within firing distance and did not turn facing the charging TUG but the end result was that it faced the charging TUG and did not turn to face it ...if it is considered to have shot, I wouls say OK . It it may still shoot we will have to reconsider some charges  8)

If skirmishing now includes a mandatory turn to face the ennemy ( in case of flank or rear charge ) and it is clearly written that way, it will simplify many things

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Re: Skirmishing or running away
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2019, 07:05:31 PM »
Ok Rules pave 76 4.5 defines the end position of a Skirmish or a Run Away. 
There is no choice. 
You skirmish your remain facing the enemy, you run away you end facing away from them.

Clarry as written says:
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SKIRMISHING WHEN CHARGED FROM FLANK/REAR
   Is allowed to get a free turn if you are prepared to take the risk, but troops so doing are considered to have done a shooting action and cannot shoot in the shooting phase (they just had no real target).

My use of allowed is a bit ambiguous I agree.  Should say perhaps

SKIRMISHING WHEN CHARGED FROM FLANK/REAR
   It is allowed to do a skirmish response.  This will give you get a free turn in order to comply with the end position of facing the enemy charge as per P76 4.5.  UGs so doing are considered to have done a shooting action and cannot shoot in the shooting phase (consider they were ordered to turn and shoot but had insufficient firepower given their situation to do any damage).


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Re: Skirmishing or running away
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2019, 08:45:19 PM »
You know why I asked  8)

Should it not be a free mandatory turn ?

I ask because otherwise one question will remain : but if I did not turn facing the enemy I might shoot ..
« Last Edit: February 16, 2019, 08:47:28 PM by badhabum »

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Re: Skirmishing or running away
« Reply #48 on: February 16, 2019, 08:56:42 PM »
Agreed, this should say the turn is mandatory.
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Re: Skirmishing or running away
« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2019, 09:24:57 AM »
Indeed it is.
Happy to take refinements to the rewording above if still not clear.

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