Mortem et Gloriam Players Podcast Episode 1 - Alexander's Successors

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Welcome to the very first Mortem et Gloriam Players Podcast  Hopefully not the last

Ray, Richard, Cid and Nik discuss the history of the wars that followed the death of Alexander the Great and look at the Macedonian Successor and Asiatic Successor lists for MeG, with a sample army from each of the guys for your consideration and/or derision. They also look at what figures they would recommend to build the armies, and offer some suggestions for reading up on the military history of the period.

Follow this link for the podcast - https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-akre8-fdedf3

The lists discussed, figure suppliers and the suggested reading material will be posted below.

We'd love feedback on this our first attempt, and any suggestions for future topics or questions from players on the lists and/or rules that we might be able to answer would be welcome.

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Here are the lists that the guys drew up - these are Maximus sized lists.





As noted in the podcast the following one has an error with the Mercenary Hoplites - you have been warned ...

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And the same in Pacto version. Note that these are pretty much a straight conversion from the Maximus lists and so have not been drawn up to a specific points value. As you will see this has resulted in somewhat differing Pacto points for each list even though all were only just under 10k points in Maximus.

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Figures

These are the ones the guys talked about in the podcast as their recommendations:

Xyston - https://www.scotiagrendel.com/Xyston/ ; Successors, Macedonian and Greek ranges especially – excellent figures, on the large side
Essex Miniatures - https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/pages/15mm-ancients ; Macedonian & Punic Wars range – solid comprehensive range
Forged in Battle - https://www.forgedinbattle.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=126_161 – Macedonian, Successors, Hoplite Greek and Seleucid ranges especially
Museum Miniatures - https://www.museumminiatures.co.uk/classical/macedonian-successor-z.html ; Macedonian and Greek ranges, new "Z" ranges are good and expanding, cheap especially when they have a sale[/li][/list]


Here are some other 15mm suppliers:

Alternative Armies - https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/15mm-dark-age-and-ancients-isarus-range ; old Table Top Miniatures ranges, true 15mm, old now.
Donnington - https://shop.ancient-modern.co.uk/ekmps/shops/aandm/the-great-wars-in-the-mediterranean-14-c.asp ; Great Wars of the Mediterranean Hellenistic range – old now and some moulds are getting a bit tired
Fighting 15s - https://fighting15s.com/product-category/gladiator-miniatures/hellenistics/?v=79cba1185463 ; old Gladiator Miniatures range, limited poses
Irregular Miniatures - http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/ ; Macedonian and Punic Wars range
Lancashire Games - http://lancashiregames.com/lg/15mm-ancients.html ; Macedonian range – cheap and army packs are good value
Magister Militum - https://www.magistermilitum.com/era/classical.html?cat%5B0%5D=62234&cat%5B1%5D=59625 ; old Chariot Miniatures range, limited number of figures
Outpost Wargames Services - http://www.outpostwargameservices.co.uk/ ; Macedonian range, very good value figures
Tin Soldier UK - https://tinsoldieruk.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=413_186_412&zenid=5s48dousgtdj7d82nehggtb0e6 ; true 15mm, idiosyncratic figures that people love or hate


And here are some 28mm suppliers:

Aventine Miniatures - https://www.aventineminiatures.org/store/ ; limited to pikemen and elephants at present
Essex Miniatures - https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/collections/25mm-ancient-macedonian-punic-wars ; Macedonian and Punic Wars range
1st Corps - https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/ancients/ancients-macedonian-successors/ ; Macedonian Successor range
Gripping Beast - https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/Polemarch_Successors--category--94.html ; Successor range
Vitrix - https://www.victrixlimited.com/collections/ancients ; Macedonian and Seleucid range in hard plastic
Crusader Miniatures - https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/ ; Macedonian range
Warlord Games - https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/macedonians ; Macedonian and successors range in hard plastic
Foundry - https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/pages/the-macedonians-philip-alexander-and-beyond ; Macedonians and successors range
A&A Miniatures - https://www.aandaminiatures.co.uk/categories/?c=1 ; Macedonian range


Transfers mentioned were:

Little Big Man Studios - https://www.littlebigmenstudios.com/ ; supply transfers for many different suppliers and scales
Veni Vedi Vici - http://www.3vwargames.co.uk/ ; suppliers of waterslide transfers, can be obtained through Essex and Magister Militum as well

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Books


"Armies of the Macedonian and Punic Wars" by Duncan Head; a must have - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Armies-Macedonian-Punic-Wars-Duncan/dp/1326256564 - if you buy only one book for this period this is the one to get.

Richard also recommended the following:

"The Wars of Alexander's Successors, 323–281 BC. Volume 1" by Bob Bennet and Mike Roberts - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009EE19TO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_o06?ie=UTF8&psc=1
"The Wars of Alexander's Successors 323 – 281 BC. Volume 2" by Bob Bennet and Mike Roberts - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QFFKL86/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_o05?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And there are some more that cover the period:

"The Rise of the Seleukid Empire (323-223 BC): Seleukos I to Seleukos III" by John Grainger - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rise-Seleukid-Empire-323-223-BC/dp/1526743760
"Antigonus the One-Eyed: Greatest of the Successors" by Jeff Champion - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OZ3HWEU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
"Antigonos the One-Eyed and the Creation of the Hellenistic State" by Richard Billows - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Antigonos-One-Eyed-Creation-Hellenistic-Culture/dp/0520208803

The following may be of interest partly as it has summaries of many battles in the Greek/Hellenistic/Republican Roman period but also because it was written as a tool for assisting understanding of ancient battles through wargames:

"Lost Battles" by Phil Sabin - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00S84UI7U/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


Other Recommendations

Very much recommended is The Society of Ancients - http://www.soa.org.uk/joomla/ ; the bi-monthly Slingshot journal is a great publication for the ancient/medieval period and joining can get you discounts from some suppliers. They also have a forum - http://soa.org.uk/sm/ - useful for asking questions and where you can get info from people such as Duncan Head the author of the must have book for the period.

[badhabum]

I would suggest you look also for miniatures suppliers outside UK    even if they sell essex, Xyston and so on  ! ( look on the french forum )

[shaun]

Listened to Podcast last night good info but I found the sound quality was all over the place, sometimes I could not here the odd word and other times volume was low, this is not a dig and the programme was way better than I could even dream of, bit of a Technophob,

[Hunter]

Fellahs
Great podcast, I really enjoyed it. Ray - your enthusiasm for MEG burned as bright as the sun and Richard - your easy going narration of the history was very easy on the ear. Nik - a very sharp appreciation of the rules indeed.  CID - its you I worry for as they've set you up a MEG tournament assassin and you know what that means ..... Pity Daventry will be a one day event - its a gie lang way from Perth for the day, Defo see you all at Skulls though where I will be praying not to draw the smiling assassin!
Well done all.
HH

[pikeman]

This is really very helpful. One thing I noti