Infantry Moving or Not

Started by IanN, September 24, 2020, 11:33:05 AM

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badhabum

Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on October 01, 2020, 04:51:21 PM
Always willing to be converted but I thought we wanted no change to the rules ...  ;)

Before we always played it as a charge being played latter for simplicity sake . It has become a habbit but it seems it was not the way it should be played . 

PUNCH

Quote from: IanN on September 24, 2020, 11:33:05 AM
There was a combat between two infantry TUG's, both 3 bases wide and both offset by one base. My opponent broke during melee phase and routed. My TUG pursued about 2mm before meeting fresh enemy, making single base contact. During next moves charge phase my opponent charged my unit with cavalry (2 bases wide) making contact with the two bases of my TUG that were unengaged.
No problem - all worked out fine ... until we did the impact combat.
Question  - were my infantry moving when contacted by the cavalry. At the time we agreed that there were not - but with hindsight - my sense it that we were incorrect.
Please clarify

Hi Ian,

to add some oil on the flames ;)

question 1: is the pursuer contact a new enemy during next charge phase?
if the answer is yes, how  the pursuer could fight  in a charge combat  that is not a prompted, forced or free charge ( the three ways to contact enemy during a charge phase).
question 2: is the pursuer staying in position to receive a charge during the next charge phase?
if the answer to the question one is yes, how the pursuer could claim staying in position to receive somebody or Something

Kind regards.

PUNCH "unable to stand and pursue in the same time " ;)

ps: if we played together, I'd give your cavalry the claim for my infantry "not standing to receive" 8) 

Simon Meg-Meister

So the concept was as follows in my mind:

a) if you break someone in a charge phase you have smashed through them and continue charging which is why there is an immediate charge combat if you hit anyone.
b) if you break someone in melee then it is a gradual breakdown and pursuit. Im these circumstances nobody would be charging at all... anyone hit would actually have a mass of their own routers running towards them, and the pushers would be all over the place.

I think arguably to store for vs 3 someday wold be to change it to fighting a melee phase in (b).

Si
Rolling Skulls in the land or Purple

badhabum

We will have a lot of teaching to do ...

But I thinck it relegates  F1 to a near useless move ( near not totally ...)

nikgaukroger

IMO the F1 action has always been mostly about where the UG ends up on the table rather than anything else - i.e. what opportunities a pursuing UG may have after the pursuit. Doubt this changes.
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Simon Meg-Meister

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