Boundaried Fields

[stuuk]

How do they work now? terrain sheet says a maximum of one per pre-laid town or village.

Presumably then, once a town or village is down, someone can pick a boundaried field and they go on just like any other terrain piece?

[Simon Meg-Meister]

Correct.

So to get one down you need to get a village down.

S

[stuuk]

This perhaps implies I've been doing terrain selection wrong all along

At the start of the game do you pick all terrain in each category (compulsory, optional) before you roll for any of them or do you pick it when it's  your turn to put something on the table?

[Dru]

My understanding (and yep would be good to get clarified) is its chronological.

e.g. Dense terrain type:

Compulsory (1 Difficult, 2 Rough)

DEF: I'm going to choose the Difficult piece as XXX. <do the placements rolls and outcomes>
ATK: <Attacker considers board after Defender choice> Ok, well I have to choose a Rough piece. I'll pick YYY. <do the placements rolls and outcomes>
DEF: <Defender surveys board after previous Compulsories resolved> And I get the final Rough piece. Hmm. It will be a ZZZ. <do the placements rolls and outcomes>

Optional (up to 2 any, per player)

DEF: <Defender considers the board after the Compulsories and decides happy with layout> I'm going to choose to place none.
ATK: <Attacker reviews the board and wants more terrain> Right. Ok, well I am going to choose to place my first piece as an AAA. <do the placements rolls and outcomes>
ATK: <Attacker surveys results after the 1st Optional piece. Decides whether or not to choose a second optional piece. In this case, decides she's happy with the board as is>. Cool, I'm happy. I'll elect not to choose a second Optional.

<Progress to Outscouting>

[craig.w]

No, all compulsory are chosen (alternately), before any are put down. Then you put down the compulsories

Then all optionals are chosen (alternately). Then you put down the optionals.

You don't get to see the result of one terrain piece and then choose your next piece.

[craig.w]

QRS: "Defender chooses a compulsory item, then the invader until all are chosen.
...

Place compulsory items alternatively starting with the defender"

I don't think alternatively is correct either

[GEOFFRM1]

If you loose the village/town then you also loose the field.  My regular opponent says you have to throw for the field and if it lands the either of the two sections not occupied by the village you also loose it.  Is that correct?

Geoff

[mad lemmey]

That's right Geoff, if you position your settlement on a border, you have a 66.66666666666666666666666etc of keeping your field.

[marshalney2000]

I thought that had changed. As long as the village stays then your field can then be anywhere on the table. It used to have to be adjacent to it.

[stuuk]

Yep it says nothing about being adjacent or otherwise on the new terrain chart.

[craig.w]

It's in the clarifications. p5. "Boundaried Fields. Must be placed touching a BUA that has ALREADY been placed on the table or touching another field adjacent to a BUA (the 2 BW spacing rule is ignored for these)."

[marshalney2000]

There was a long debate about this on the old forum which arose from a point made after a tournament that the placing of boundaries Fields was too easy. My recollection was that Simon concluded that a mid way was required which made thecplacing of a village compulsory but thereafter there was no need for this to be adjacent to the village. Only one field per village.

[accard]

This was Simon's response late last year on the old forum site - not sure if it changed.

Actually just noticed its already fixed in my draft
R    Boundaried Fields    S,C    Fields that have hedges or walls around them and are potentially defensible    Infantry visible at 3 BW    Any bases defending the edge    Obstacles pre 800AD, or Barricades from 800AD. Must touch houses or another BF when initially placed (if not possible lost).
So much harder and rarer to get as 2/3rd chance of losing it with only 1 village on the table.

[accard]

Ah - just saw this later response:

May only be placed in sectors with a village/town or an adjacent one.
Now 67% chance - and a decent bet.

[GEOFFRM1]

The latest clarification for the placement of a boundary field is:
• MUST be   placed   touching a BUA   that   has   ALREADY   been   placed   on   
the   table or   touching   another   field   adjacent   to   a   BUA (the   2BW   
spacing   rule   is   ingored   for   these).      There   is   no   placement   roll   but   the   
opponent   still   gets   an   adjustment   die   roll.      Prior   to   800AD   they   a   
bounded by   OBSTACLES,   thereafter   they   may   be   BARRICADES   at   the   
choice   of   the   placing   player   (using the   date   of   the   defending player).
If   chosen   and   there   is   no   BUA   at   the   time   of   placement, they   are   lost.
Which implies that you choose all terrain pieces before laying them.

Geoff