Possible foot Long Spear rule change

Started by lionheartrjc, January 28, 2025, 10:12:21 AM

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LawrenceG

I think LSP do need a bit of help and my suggestion is to allow TUGS of 9 in the lists (normally they are 6,8).

When you are an 8, it's always the file with 2 ranks that takes the first base loss and loses its claim.

You can avoid this by taking them in 6s, but then you need more cards to control them all, so you end up not taking so many.

steads

Quote from: LawrenceG on January 30, 2025, 07:57:54 AM
I think LSP do need a bit of help and my suggestion is to allow TUGS of 9 in the lists (normally they are 6,8).

When you are an 8, it's always the file with 2 ranks that takes the first base loss and loses its claim.

You can avoid this by taking them in 6s, but then you need more cards to control them all, so you end up not taking so many.
+1

lionheartrjc

Quote from: LawrenceG on January 30, 2025, 07:57:54 AM
I think LSP do need a bit of help and my suggestion is to allow TUGS of 9 in the lists (normally they are 6,8).
When you are an 8, it's always the file with 2 ranks that takes the first base loss and loses its claim.
You can avoid this by taking them in 6s, but then you need more cards to control them all, so you end up not taking so many.

Maybe.

paulstovell

I do think LSp have an issue in Magna when they are often in 4's and the first loss will always reduce their combat factors.
So some sympathy for allowing them in 9's in Maximus .

I do quite like the idea that Pike and Lsp don't downgrade supporting files but that would require other changes I imagine.

RJC change does seem to clash with the way PA currently works.

 

badhabum

Hoplites as heavy fighters did reign over battlefields and not necessarily in deep ranks that came a bit later .So would 4 rank deep or 8 rank deep be necessary ? ( Marathon of course ) .

The depth gives more "push"  but does it really change the USE of the dory, the LS ? Would it be enough to give a +1 factor vs others using SP or a similar spear but using it in a different way ?

I am willing to try and do think it might be a good change and yes the game balance will be affected but if it betters the rules and speeds game play I am open to it but as we are busy preparing Athens and Chanier, no time for real testing before mid-march