Shove

Started by daveparish, January 14, 2022, 10:34:25 AM

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daveparish

I'm teaching some new players MeG and one of them came up with a reading of the Shove rule that surprised me - but I'm not coming up with a convincing answer. On p148 the definition of Shove at 3.2 says "Shove gives neighbouring files an immediate +1 to any unresolved combat in this phase and this counts in charge combat and melee combat". They took the "and this counts" part to mean that if you got a Shove in Charge combat you left the marker there and counted it in Melee combat as well for the same file (ie the S or Skull counted for both phases). I've never played it that way but that does look like a possible reading -  have I been playing it wrong all along?

steads

The key phrase is "in this phase" so no it does not continue into a melee phase following a shove in a charge phase. 8)

daveparish

That's what I told them - but I wasn't convinced even as I said it. Their reading does seem plausible. It says "in this phase and this counts in charge combat and melee combat". If our interpretation was correct it would say something like "This may be claimed in charge combat or melee combat" (preferably as a separate sentence). The confusion is more from the use of the word "counts" than the word "and" I think.

nikgaukroger

Quote from: steads on January 14, 2022, 11:01:32 AM
The key phrase is "in this phase" so no it does not continue into a melee phase following a shove in a charge phase. 8)

This is correct.
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