Scottish in France

Started by daveparish, February 27, 2020, 10:57:32 AM

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daveparish

Hi

I may be overthinking it, but I have a question about the command structure for the Scottish in France (House of Valois).

Can you have multiple French contingents? Looks like too many troops for one contingent

Dave P

lionheartrjc

You can have multiple French generals (commanding French troops).  You can't have multiple French contingents (so the maximums apply to the army, not the individual general).  Perhaps might have been clearer if the headings said Scottish Troops and French Troops and avoided the word Contingent.

Don't understand your comment about too many troops for one contingent.  These are not allied contingents so you can have as many UGs in a contingent as you wish.

Richard

daveparish

Great - thanks for the reply (and sorry I wasn't clear, I meant too many troops for one general)

Can I be cheeky and ask a couple of supplementary questions, please?

If submitting a list for a competition (...ooh ... say Campaign as a random example...) do you need to specify which French troops are with which French sub-general or can it be flexible from game to game as with sub-generals usually.

The Scottish CinC has  be Professional - can he use two cards to command a French unit as he would be able to usually with a sub-generals troops

lionheartrjc

No, there is no requirement to specify which troops are with which sub-general.  The only restriction is that Scottish generals command Scottish troops and French generals command French troops.

Yes he can. Essentially Scottish generals were put in charge of French armies (in effect they became French nobles).

If this seems odd, many "English" nobles held lands in both England and France. The Treaty of Troyes in 1420 recognised Henry V as heir to the French throne and had he lived for 6 more months there would have been a union of the English and French thrones. Instead he died in August 1422 (age 35) and Charles VI of France survived to October 1422 (age 54).

Richard

nikgaukroger

Quote from: lionheartrjc on February 28, 2020, 08:10:35 AM
Yes he can. Essentially Scottish generals were put in charge of French armies (in effect they became French nobles).

Some received French titles so technically were French nobles  ;D
"The Roman Empire was not murdered and nor did it die a natural death; it accidentally committed suicide."

daveparish

Thanks Richard - all the effort that goes into maintaining these lists (including answering queries like this) is really appreciated

Dave P