Entoyment and Beachhead 2023 are proud to present a Mortem et Gloriam Competition

Dates February 11th and 12th 2023

Venue: Bournemouth International Centre

Period: Late Western Medieval Europe (see list of allowed armies below)

Points: 10,000

Games: Two games on Saturday and two games on Sunday each with a time limit of three hours.

Ticket Cost: £30.00 (Available through the Entoyment Website under the events section and Beachhead Events. (www.entoyment.co.uk). Please bring confirmation of your booking to the event and a wristband will be issued for the event.

https://entoyment.co.uk/product/11-12-02-23-mortem-et-gloriam-tournament-beachhead-2023/


Prize Support to be provided by Entoyment:  As well as trophies there will be vouchers which we can distribute to the highest placed players and best painted, best sport etc. More details will be announced at the event.

Any queries re the event Email Robin Spence:  parkstone316@yahoo.co.uk

Army lists to be sent to james.mcmeiken@gmail.com by the 3rd of February at the latest for checking. Please send me the full army builder document and send them as early as you can to allow for accurate checking.

Matts:  If you have a suitable 6'x 4' matt please can you bring it with you along with your terrain, printed lists and army. As long as half of us bring one we shall be fine but better to be prepared.


Information on the wider Beachhead Show can be found at https://beachheadshow.co.uk/ including the vendors.

Whilst food is often sold at the venue there is a corner shop over the road, a Tesco in Bournemouth Square and restaurants close by.  Bournemouth is also a nice seaside town with lots of shops, beaches, the gardens and attractions for making it a family weekend.

Timetable for both days:

8:30 Players start arriving and we set up matts and ensure tables are all fine

8:45 Briefing and any questions

9:00 Game 1 of the day starts

12:00 Last dice rolled if any games ongoing and lunch called

13:00 Game 2 of the day starts

16:00 Last dice rolled for the second game

(The show is still open at this point so players who played two full three hour games and needed to eat and rest at lunch have a chance to walk around and see the show and do shopping.)

16:30 Sunday Prize giving and end of day tidy.



Permitted Lists from pdfs below. Any list from 1200AD onwards


Holy Roman Empire

House of Osman

House of Valois

The Italian Wars

Kings in the North

Reconquista

Ostsiedlung

Morning,

I agree the recommended lists expand beyond the Punnic wars; the compromises were reached in order to not put off players with one army who may not come to an event with a super tight list selection as they didn't have the time or money to build something new.

In theory "Any Classical with any allies allowed in those lists is the official format"  but by asking players to bring armies om the enemies of the Republican Roman and Carthaginian armies we get a fairly broad spectrum of types of lists from Gallic Warband type to Hoplites.  Bring whatever build legal classic list you like that you will enjoy

The Carthaginians I had planned are a little later than they should be to be called "Punnic Wars"  but I should be able to.get a few more UGs to represent an earlier list and that was the sort of thing the group discussing what to select wanted to avoid for players who couldn't make thay switch.

As long as players are happy playing classical games then we are all good and first round we'll pair up traditional opponents so at least one game is nicely themed for as many players as possible.

Kind Regards

MeG at Beachhead 2022

Entoyment and Beachhead 2022 are proud to present: A Mortem et Gloriam Competition!

This event will be run over February 12th and 13th of 2020 at the Bournemouth International Centre and tickets 30 are available through the Entoyment Webstore  www.entoyment.co.uk please bring confirmation of your booking to make sure you can get into the show where wristbands are then issued.

Information on the wider Beachhead 2022 Event can be found at https://beachheadshow.co.uk/

Period and Theme

This will be a Classical Period event with any army allowed from the Classical Army Books.  If an army can take allies they are allowed to take allies from any permitted book listed. This will make the event very inclusive.

However, as a team on the South Coast a theme of the Punic Wars was suggested.  At the bottom of the event flyer are extracts from the Mortem Et Gloriam: Historical Enemies PDF and if you have an army which is included on those extracts then it would be fantastic if you could theme your entry army list!  However, if that isn't possible and you have another classical army, please still come along!

Army lists must be sent to james.mcmeiken@gmail.com by the 4th of February for checking.  As James will be checking the lists if you play him on one of the days he'll show you his list before the game.

The Competition

There will be four, three hours 10,000 point Maximus games played over the two days, one on each morning and one on each afternoon.  Where possible we will work in time to ensure you don't need to rush a game to wonder around the show as well.

The first round will be drawn randomly from pools of historical enemies. Rounds two to four will be drawn using the Swiss system drawn from the whole player group. Scoring will be as per the standard scoring for MeG competitions as outlined in the rulebook.

Things to bring with you

Whilst we only need half the players to bring a mat, if you can please bring a 6'x4' mat with you to ensure we have enough to cover the tables.

Please remember your own terrain and game aids too and at least one copy of your army list.

Prize Support

Prize support for the event will be provided by Entoyment and usually comes in the form of vouchers. More information on what prizes can be won will be provided closer to the event however; where we can Best Painted and Most Sporting Player are prizes we are always keen to reward as well as prizes for placing at the top of the competition!

Timetable Both Days

8:30 Players and event organisers arrive by this time and make sure tables and mats are in place

8:45 Player Briefing

9:00 Game 1 Starts

12:00 Game 1 Ends (at end of current turn) and Lunch Starts

13:00 Game 2 Starts

16:00 Game 2 Ends

(After this point the show is still open)

16:30 End of Day Tidy and or Prize Giving

Useful Information

The Bournemouth International Centre has its own car parks but several local outdoor car parks are close by. There are busses from the train station directly to the BIC.  There is some food served at the BIC and a number of restaurants and cafes and fast food chains are located a short walk away.

For those making a weekend away with their family, the Gardens, Beach, Shopping and Cinemas are very close to the event building and Bournemouth has many hotels to suit almost any budget.

For those staying over in Bournemouth who like a good curry out on a Saturday night there is a fantastic place with a road with plenty of free parking on it.



Suggested Lists to fit the Theme (Please see above notes)

Mid Republican  Roman:  Thracian Lowland Tribes; Scordisci; Highland Gallic; Lowland Gallic; Early German; Thracian Hill Tribes; Illyrian; Later Macedonian; Hellenistic Greek; Apulian; Bruttian; Lucanian; Later Campanian; Early Carthaginian; Sardinian; Siciliot Greek; Syracusan; Spanish - Celtiberian; Spanish - Iberian; Spanish - Lusitanian; Numidian or Moorish; Later Carthaginian; First Servile War Slave Revolt; Second Servile War Slave Revolt; Early Seleucid; Late Seleucid; Pontic Later

Republican Roman:  Thracian Lowland Tribes; Bosporan; Scordisci; Dacian or Carpi; Pre-Islamic Arab; Jewish; Late Ptolemaic; Highland Gallic; Lowland Gallic; Early German; Thracian Hill Tribes; Spartacus Slave Revolt; Parthian; Parthian Vassal States; Spanish - Celtiberian; Spanish - Iberian; Spanish - Lusitanian; Numidian or Moorish; Spanish - Sertorian; Armenian; Cappadocian

Early Carthaginian: Spartan; Mid Republican Roman; Libyan; Sardinian; Siciliot Greek; Syracusan; Spanish – Iberian

Later Carthaginian: Lowland Gallic; Later Campanian; Mid Republican Roman; Syracusan; Spanish - Celtiberian; Spanish - Iberian; Spanish - Lusitanian; Numidian or Moorish

Would the SuG have to move before the TuG in this case after it paid the card to charge?

As in if it moves first in charge order it makes contact but if the TuG moves first it evades? Or once the card is paid whoever moves first the combat occurs?

Kind regards

Thanks for the response,  I'm not adverse to that being the final clarification either works for me and there's no motive one way or the other.

My question on the first point you've noted is that it doesn't use that text which we're all familiar with from the army lists which also state specific phases relevant to the type of physical movement of the figures that is allowed. Therefore if that's the final clarification point 10 of the Battlewagon rules should be tightened up to say that if its the final ruling.

With the second point I totally agree that the standard rules for bursting through are very clear.  However, bursting through is defined as passing through and as above with point one we have a rule which does not confirm to the archetypal statements associated with the spirit you described. It's not so much a conflict as clarification on words used.

The rules for Battlewagons were in test not long before the compendium was printed and one of the testers agreed the result of the rules printed could indicate a greater freedom of passing through as there's no notes to specify in which phase.

You then hit a logic loop as passing through includes bursting through as the term passing through is used to define it. That would therefor follow as written that when in column nothing can burst through battlewagons and any evading unit that contact's them is destroyed or stops when contacting them (or could be caught as couldn't flee as far)  which then opens up a whole further can of worms. Everything else can burst through everything else meaning you'd need a new rule.

It needs an official carry I think to prevent that logic look and as you said to bring it into line with the other passing through special rules to say what is allowed and in what phases whether its more flexibility fleeing (or even charging in the charge phase) or just in the move phase.

Kind regards

Page 110 section 5 and 6 (with specific mention to 6.1 and 6.2)

Then Page 184 point 10.

Point 10 notes that any UG can pass through a battlewagon TuG in Line formation. It doesn't note whether that applies to the just the movement phase or to any phase, such as an UG evading a charge.

Page 110 defines bursting through as passing through,  it just adds extra effects if you are a mounted SuG or any TuG with KaB tests.

Can any UG evade through a TuG of Battlewagons in Line without causing a KaB as bursting through is a special type of passing through? (See key question above on point 10 of battlewagons)

(If no is the answer I may have further questions as to the implication of thay for the mechanics of battlewagons and "passing" in various forms

Kind regards

James

Quote from: lionheartrjc on January 21, 2020, 03:36:48 PM
Not my point!  My point was that if you are going to run an open competition - don't randomly draw the first round, draw based upon the date of the army.

FWIW My view is it is always far easier to do a tournament manually instead of using a computer.

Richard

p.s. I am open to suggestions on how I fight a Later 100 Yrs War English with Mitanni.  I can't even hide up a forested mountain....

I wouldn't  be too worried I'm not that good!

Also you're far more mobile than most of my TuGs so can get around the sides

As its  a fun event I can promise  im not going to corner sit as that would be dull!

All lists are checked and good to go so... I did an independently adjudicated draw with some confused work colleagues


Round 1                                                              

Ian (Neo-Babylonian) vs               Lance (Almoravid)

James (Later 100 Years War English) vs RJC (Mitanni)

Nigel (Rajput Indian) vs Ray (Arab Conquest)

Cid (Hussite) vs Bruce (New Kingdom Egyptian)

Robin (Eastern Seljuk Turk) vs Nik            (Lusignan Cypriot)


Looking forward to Sunday!

Awesome, thanks for signing up!  We got another signup too so we are at at least 10 with two others unsure but maybe coming

I have already asked for more spaces and Pete at the shop says it's fine!

Kind regards

Morning,

Anything from the classical list books can't be used as the core of the force but can use used as allies... for example Median Empire from the Charriot Age could select its allies from a Classical Book

Anything else from any other period or region is fine, so any Asian, American or African lists that fall into the traditional dates for the classical period can be taken

As per Simon's suggestion there are alot of classical comps so it's as open as possible for taking anything else youd like to use

Kind Regards

Bookings are going well to get to 12 players already then. That's 6-7 already (possibly more, I'll check bookings with Pete) and still a month to go.

Looking forward to getting 100 years war English out of their box and trying the new mixed units.

Sunday 26th January 2020 (8.30am-4pm)


Entoyment Wargaming and Hobby Store are proud to present a one day Mortem Et Gloriam event in Poole on the 26th of January 2020

Period: Any non classical list from any period including Asia, Americas or Africa. (Allies to Chariot Age or Early Medieval lists from classical lists are allowed)


Scale and List Submission: This event will be 15mm (though as long as the bases are 40mm wide other suitable scales, such as 10mm are allowed). The army size will be up to 10,000 points and lists should be submitted to james.mcmeiken@gmail.com by 6pm on Sunday 19th of January.


Rules Material: The event will be played using the latest downloadable material (lists, reference sheets and clarifications available from the Mortem et Gloriam Website)


Places: 12 initially, we will make more avaiable if popularity is high.


Round Times: The games will last 3 hours from the start of the round and this will include scouting and setup. At the end of the three hour duration for the round when time is called players may finish the phase currently being played.


Draw: The first round will be a random draw though players will not be able to play club mates and the second drawn by the Swiss system. Ties will be separated by points scored less points scored by opponents. Tie breaks will be based on head to head record first if played if necessary we'll come up with another neutral way to separate players.


Ticket Prices and Prizes:

Tickets are available from www.entoyment.co.uk

Entoyment has generously offered prize support which will be dependent on how many players we have. Tickets will be £10 for the day and the prizes will be as follows :


Event Champion: £30 Entoyment Vouchers

Runner Up: £20 Entoyment Voucher

Third Placed Player: £10 Entoyment Voucher

Best Painted Army: £10 Entoyment Voucher

Giant Slayer Award: £10 Entoyment Voucher

*Prizes will have to be altered if we have fewer players as the ticket prices cover the cost

Event Timings

08:30 Event registration opens

08:45 Welcome and Briefing

09:00 Round 1 Starts

12:00 Round 1 Ends

12:00 Lunch Begins

12:45 Round 2 Starts

15:45 Round 2 Ends

16:00 Prize giving


Admin: Food and drink purchased elsewhere are not be to be consumed on site however, Entoyment have a selection of cold and hot food including meal deals. They have a small oven and microwave and there are panini, pizzas and pasta dishes on offer as well has lots of drinks and snacks.


Entoyment also has plenty of parking around it as it is set in an industrial estate but for those coming by public transport there are bus links from Poole. Their shop stocks some War and Empire lines as well as many other wargames, brushes, paints, sprays and basing material.

The shop is easily findable on google maps searching for Entoyment the address for Satnavs is on their website

Look forward to running the first MeG event there and if it goes well then I'll run more events!

Kind Regards,

James

Morning,

I'm James and split time between Bournemouth and Southampton, mostly Southampton at the moment but am still quite new myself.

If you want practice games though I'm sure we can work something out!

Welcome to the community!

Nigel and I often play at Sarisbury Wargames club just on the far side of Southampton on Thursdays and there are two other local MeG players who attend as well

I'm not adverse to travelling to Entoyment and booking a table at the weekends either in Poole.  Some of us have talked about a small one day mini comp there too.

If you like I'm happy to share contact info and I'm sure some of the other local players will reply too.

It's ok you'll be able to give me a kicking and show me how it's done!

How're you going to get the pikes next time? 

One and a half more TuGs to paint then I'm ready!

Went and brought heather tufts to make the bases look like the local hearts...