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As we prepare to move hosts the forum needs a bit of an upgrade. As such it will look and feel a bit different

let me know if something doesn't work though

there are a lot of tertiary sources (Quaritch-Wales, Charney etc). But also elements of Mendes Pinto which is good for REG if not MEG !
I enjoyed it, on a topic that can be hard to digest with a Western eye sometimes

The new Stephen Turnbull book  'Elephants and gunpowder' is worth a read

You are invited to join us for our 29th annual competition weekend.



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10000 points, £22.50 per player.
Armies 1073—1350AD from the following books; Allies can be from outside the Army lists.

• Frankokratia
• House of Osman (except 5301 Islamic Persian and 5306 Jalairid Sultanate)
• Kings of the North
• Valois
• Holy Roman Empire
• Ostsiedlung
• Reconquista

in addition from Africa, only -

• 5901 Christian Nubian
• 5902 Kingdom of Ghana
• 5903 Beja
• 5904 Kanem of Bornu
• 5905 Abyssinian
• 5906 Mogadishu Sultanate
• 5907 Tuareg
• 5908 Hausa Kingdoms
• 5910 Ayyubid in Ifriqiya.

All submitted lists must be on the official 2025 MEG army builder.

You may notice that ccc-games.co.uk is going to a new site. This is in the process of being set up. So, will be out of action for a while.

please make sure that if you do have a query it goes to admin@ccc-games.co.uk

The ccc-games site is moving provider, as such there might be some disruption to service

This should be resolved in the next week or so

You may have seen an increased amount of spam being posted on this forum. I have refreshed all the registration questions. But can I ask that you do not answer the questions for these questions here, or on any social media, as these bots are scraping the forum and places like FB for this information.

I've also put restrictions on certain domains (.RU for instance) to try and stifle these unwelcome visitors.

I'm in too !

A slight change in process in that all CCC dice and cards will now be sold via the Lurkio store run by Richard Basilzewski. Richard was fulfilling the orders from CCC games anyway, so not much in the way of changes other than the site to be purchased from. CCC games will remain just digital items.

The site  Lurkio

You can reach Richard on email

Current attendees are -

Will Denham
Philip Powell
Peter Entwistle
Roger Whittam
Matt McVeigh
David Gollop
Mat Booth
Peter Bettany

Period corrected

Mortem et Gloriam will be BADcon on the 24th & 25th of February 2024.


The event is 15mm – 10,000 pts

10,000 pts. Armies & Enemies of Rome 275BC—476AD

Full details and tickets are here BADCON link

post-classical Mayan warfare is defined by the disappearance of large territorial states in the Lowlands. The main reasons to go to war were to establish a tributary system where the losing region is indebted to the victor. Most later Mayan warfare was extended raiding. As a result fighting was more desperate, rather than traditional pitched battles. Grading the this way in the later period represents nobles operating in larger war-parties than in earlier times.

Just for my 2p, its probably unwise to compare REG to MEG. They have different design goals. Having played MEG at the weekend, I am reminded it is a different beast. It is much slower in pace, which is little to do with wounds per base. By virtue that you have many decisions of formation/manoeuvre with each of your TUGs means it will obviously take longer. In MEG there is an equality of timeliness in resolution in combat between foot and mounted. Opposed to REG where mounted combat - by and large - resolves quickly and early in the game. This then forces imperative action in the 2nd infantry phase

again IMHO  , not being critical to either system.