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Author's Section => Rules Queries and Clarifications => Topic started by: rayfredjohn on December 06, 2019, 12:21:21 PM

Title: Asking for a friend
Post by: rayfredjohn on December 06, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
In uncharted territory, rule reading.

on 2020 QRS

EL +3 vs. tribal/formed close foot

Question;  does that mean +3 against Tribal or Formed that are close foot

or as my friend (honest doc) says - +3 against Tribal (any kind) and Formed close foot


Names have been withheld to protect the innocent
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: mad lemmey on December 06, 2019, 12:27:57 PM
It used to say non drilled  close, guess it means the same...
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: nikgaukroger on December 06, 2019, 12:35:16 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on December 06, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Question;  does that mean +3 against Tribal or Formed that are close foot

This one. The alternative just gets silly when you consider the factors for Cv, etc. that follow the foot ones.

Not sure why it has been changed as I thought the old wording was clear. Then again i think this one is, just different.
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: Jilu on December 06, 2019, 05:50:26 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on December 06, 2019, 12:35:16 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on December 06, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Question;  does that mean +3 against Tribal or Formed that are close foot

This one. The alternative just gets silly when you consider the factors for Cv, etc. that follow the foot ones.

Not sure why it has been changed as I thought the old wording was clear. Then again i think this one is, just different.

as i read it it is close tribal and close formed
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: badhabum on December 06, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
It is pretty clear : +3 vs close units that are tribal or formed ...read the rest of the line on the QRS makes it pretty clear
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on December 06, 2019, 07:36:50 PM
Nomenclature is

/ means take as a group of alternatives.
So its either of them

So
tribal/formed close = means tribal close or formed close.
tribal or formed close = would mean any tribal or formed close

Hoping have got all the / correct on that basis. but open to finding any that are not.

It used to be non-drilled close and trying to avoid negatives. Thought it clearer and easier to say tribal/formed and avoid the non.

Si
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on December 06, 2019, 07:37:12 PM
PS your still a friend Ray Duggins  ;)
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: rayfredjohn on December 06, 2019, 10:21:29 PM
There's your answer #Pete
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: Administrator on December 07, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
The solidus is OK to substitute for 'or' but the confusion is the "close foot" which you could argue to be a compound word in this case to avoid ambiguity

tribal/formed close-foot   would be technically better

Parses as (Tribal or Formed) and (Close foot)
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on December 07, 2019, 02:15:38 PM
I'll have to ponder that ...

S
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: AntiokosIII on December 07, 2019, 06:09:38 PM
Quote from: Administrator on December 07, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
The solidus is OK to substitute for 'or' but the confusion is the "close foot" which you could argue to be a compound word in this case to avoid ambiguity

tribal/formed close-foot   would be technically better

Parses as (Tribal or Formed) and (Close foot)

It would be more technically correct, but the usage is so rare that fewer people would understand it, IMHO.
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: rayfredjohn on December 07, 2019, 06:30:25 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on December 06, 2019, 12:27:57 PM
It used to say non drilled  close, guess it means the same...

We were trying not to guess
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: rayfredjohn on December 07, 2019, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: badhabum on December 06, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
It is pretty clear : +3 vs close units that are tribal or formed ...read the rest of the line on the QRS makes it pretty clear

Not so sir.
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: badhabum on December 08, 2019, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: rayfredjohn on December 07, 2019, 06:31:11 PM
Quote from: badhabum on December 06, 2019, 07:31:21 PM
It is pretty clear : +3 vs close units that are tribal or formed ...read the rest of the line on the QRS makes it pretty clear

Not so sir.

OK vs tribal or formed  close FOOT to me it is clear  ;D
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: peter c on December 08, 2019, 05:21:43 PM
Thanks Ray, a friend in need is a friend indeed. Simon now knows why I have strange questions about the rules when I am proof reading as I have difficulty with symbols that are used in computing and mathematics to mean something in the middle of a sentence  :)
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on December 09, 2019, 03:13:28 PM
<ok>  ;)
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: DracoStandard on December 19, 2019, 03:50:12 PM
so its

(tribal|formed)close foot

as opposed to

(tribal|formed close) foot
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: RocketSix on December 19, 2019, 05:32:31 PM
correct
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: DracoStandard on December 19, 2019, 08:36:36 PM
see, regex solves all syntax problems
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: mad lemmey on December 19, 2019, 10:46:02 PM
But not your lack of punctuation issues...   :P :-*
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: Administrator on December 19, 2019, 11:39:22 PM
If you're having string problems I feel bad for you son
I got ninety nine problems but regex ain't one
Title: Re: Asking for a friend
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on December 21, 2019, 06:39:41 AM
As X/Y is causing some confusion and I've noticed we use it for -/ArmHrs I have tried to get rid of them all and have greater clarity still.

I will post the QRS here for mass checking shortly as easy to slip on banana skin while doing so. :o

S