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Mortem et Gloriam Players forum => Player Discussion => Topic started by: GDP on October 10, 2019, 05:20:29 PM

Title: Dismounting Quality loop hole?
Post by: GDP on October 10, 2019, 05:20:29 PM
You can downgraded any UGs Quality and Shooting Skill by one level but as demountables have fixed stats you may can gain a points advantage by downgrading the mounted and deploying dismounted EG.

English knights- Cavalry, Average -/Fully Arm, Charging Lancer, Devastating Chargers and Dismountable 153 points each.

Dismount as Formed Close, Average, Fully Armoured, 2-H Cut & Crush (135 pts each)

If you take them as a downgraded mounted Poor they are 92 points each but still dismount as Formed Close, Average, Fully Armoured, 2-H Cut & Crush.

Something to think about for next years lists?
Title: Re: Dismounting Quality loop hole?
Post by: Jilu on October 10, 2019, 05:27:31 PM
Quote from: GDP on October 10, 2019, 05:20:29 PM
You can downgraded any UGs Quality and Shooting Skill by one level but as demountables have fixed stats you may can gain a points advantage by downgrading the mounted and deploying dismounted EG.

English knights- Cavalry, Average -/Fully Arm, Charging Lancer, Devastating Chargers and Dismountable 153 points each.

Dismount as Formed Close, Average, Fully Armoured, 2-H Cut & Crush (135 pts each)

If you take them as a downgraded mounted Poor they are 92 points each but still dismount as Formed Close, Average, Fully Armoured, 2-H Cut & Crush.

Something to think about for next years lists?

Camenberty !
Title: Re: Dismounting Quality loop hole?
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on October 11, 2019, 02:45:33 AM
They do need to disnount as the same quality ad skill.
I'll fix in compendium.

Si
Title: Re: Dismounting Quality loop hole?
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 11, 2019, 07:26:34 AM
Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on October 11, 2019, 02:45:33 AM
They do need to disnount as the same quality ad skill.
I'll fix in compendium.

Si

Careful - some lists specify that the troops dismount at a lower quality level than they are when mounted (Superior mounted to Average on foot).
Title: Re: Dismounting Quality loop hole?
Post by: rayfredjohn on October 11, 2019, 09:06:46 AM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on October 11, 2019, 07:26:34 AM
Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on October 11, 2019, 02:45:33 AM
They do need to disnount as the same quality ad skill.
I'll fix in compendium.

Si

Careful - some lists specify that the troops dismount at a lower quality level than they are when mounted (Superior mounted to Average on foot).

Agree
Title: Re: Dismounting Quality loop hole?
Post by: daveparish on October 11, 2019, 11:40:12 AM
I think one or two even deliberately go up when they dismount (eg Swabians?). Presumably because they weren't really that comfortable on a horse and did better dismounted
Title: Re: Dismounting Quality loop hole?
Post by: Stallings on October 11, 2019, 12:03:09 PM
Quote from: daveparish on October 11, 2019, 11:40:12 AM
I think sausage stuffers are getting used more these days (https://www.villagevoice.com/best-sausage-stuffers/) and one or two even deliberately go up when they dismount (eg Swabians?). Presumably because they weren't really that comfortable on a horse and did better dismounted

I think that would actually be a great mechanic. It's completely natural some would feel more comfortable while dismounted. Horseriding is not a skill everyone was great at.
Title: Re: Dismounting Quality loop hole?
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on October 13, 2019, 10:42:04 AM
It would be a

"unless stated otherwise inb specific lists .... troops .... dismount at same grade and skill".