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Author's Section => Rules Queries and Clarifications => Topic started by: jasonbroomer on June 01, 2019, 11:58:34 AM

Title: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: jasonbroomer on June 01, 2019, 11:58:34 AM
Possibly intentional, but mega cheesy. Cantabrian upgrades to skilled shooters in the Characteristics Sheet. Thus if you downgrade the shooting quality in your list to unskilled, they are still skilled when in Cantrabrian ...?
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: nikgaukroger on June 01, 2019, 12:02:59 PM
Yup - has crossed my mind a few times but feels too much like cheese ...
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: rayfredjohn on June 01, 2019, 12:33:05 PM
Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: Jilu on June 01, 2019, 01:12:16 PM
i think it was supposed to be upgrade one skill level
Exp - Skilled
unskilled - exp
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: rayfredjohn on June 01, 2019, 01:50:00 PM
Quote from: Jilu on June 01, 2019, 01:12:16 PM
i think it was supposed to be upgrade one skill level
Exp - Skilled
unskilled - exp

Troops in Cantabrian upgrade their shooting to Skilled as long as the shooting SuG is not doing a Run Away response.
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: badhabum on June 01, 2019, 05:09:18 PM
That's a nice one. Hope we have an answer before next week-end
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: nikgaukroger on June 01, 2019, 05:26:07 PM
IMO there is nothing to answer, the characteristic is quite clear.

Now whether it is a good thing ...
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: lionheartrjc on June 01, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
I do not believe that this is what was intended.  I have asked Simon to issue an immediate clarification.

Richard Jeffrey-Cook
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: mad lemmey on June 01, 2019, 08:18:52 PM
Sounds like someone just played Adrian Pitfield ;) , it came up at Campaign too.
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: nikgaukroger on June 01, 2019, 08:34:53 PM
Its been mentioned a couple of times before - bit of a surprise that more hasn't been made of it.
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: Jilu on June 01, 2019, 09:47:21 PM
Quote from: lionheartrjc on June 01, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
I do not believe that this is what was intended.  I have asked Simon to issue an immediate clarification.

Richard Jeffrey-Cook


i think it was not imagined that players would downgrade shooting skill to take advantage of it. rather cheesy to do so i must say
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: RocketSix on June 01, 2019, 10:50:34 PM
Was brought up in 2018 on the old forum , and was subject of a clarification.. but seems to have got lost
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: Robin on June 02, 2019, 08:32:52 AM
Has it been changed yet ? If not. Good way of saving points. Well spotted Mr Whittam. LOL
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: Geoff on June 03, 2019, 12:01:19 AM
Easy to fix. Just state in the characteristic that it is only available to experienced shooters.
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on June 03, 2019, 03:22:14 PM
Wasn't expecting characteristic to be allowed for Unskilled. Gliche between rules and lists.
The idea of unskilled shooters being good enough to form cantabrian .... seems like a null set to me.
So it now isn't. RJC and I agreed.

Cantrabian
Cannot be used by unskilled shooters. Upgrade to Skilled is from Experienced only.

Si
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: nikgaukroger on June 03, 2019, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on June 03, 2019, 03:22:14 PM
Wasn't expecting characteristic to be allowed for Unskilled.

Don't believe any Unskilled shooters in the lists have it, only comes about because of the ability to downgrade the shooting skill.

Sorted now though  8)
Title: Re: Cantabrian bug?
Post by: rayfredjohn on June 03, 2019, 03:31:12 PM
Quote from: Simon Meg-Meister on June 03, 2019, 03:22:14 PM
Wasn't expecting characteristic to be allowed for Unskilled. Gliche between rules and lists.
The idea of unskilled shooters being good enough to form cantabrian .... seems like a null set to me.
So it now isn't. RJC and I agreed.

Cantrabian
Cannot be used by unskilled shooters. Upgrade to Skilled is from Experienced only.

Si

Done.

Very sensible