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Author's Section => Rules Queries and Clarifications => Topic started by: stuuk on May 24, 2019, 12:40:33 PM

Title: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: stuuk on May 24, 2019, 12:40:33 PM
If a SuG declares a charge, but then later in the sequence of charge declarations is itself charged, can it declare it wishes to evade (run/skirmish) ?

I do not see anywhere in the book where this is covered.
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: Raiderd on May 24, 2019, 01:29:20 PM
Good question.    I think SUG must try to charge no evade Opportunity
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: stuuk on May 24, 2019, 02:59:17 PM
Maybe.. but all I can find is page 74

9.4  D  2.1
"SUGs charged by TUGs must run away unless..."


I would have expected to see an exception there if not allowed to run but there is no exception listed. 
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: marshalney2000 on May 24, 2019, 03:25:00 PM
There was a big debate about this on a previous forum and as Inrecall it was a matter of charger beware. If they charged then they could not abort it and evade.
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: Rino on May 25, 2019, 06:11:10 AM
Quote from: marshalney2000 on May 24, 2019, 03:25:00 PM
There was a big debate about this on a previous forum and as Inrecall it was a matter of charger beware. If they charged then they could not abort it and evade.
I have the same memory abt that thread.
It had to do with the order of the action in the phase as well.
The outcome was once you declare a charge no matter what you charge.
Should someone have the clarie that was concluding the thread pls share
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: lionheartrjc on May 25, 2019, 08:58:09 AM
IGNORE - THIS IS WRONG

Yes - it was queried on the forum.

It does depend upon sequence.  If it has already charged then it can't evade and if contacted by a TuG is lost.  If it hasn't charged then it can evade.

Richard
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: marshalney2000 on May 25, 2019, 09:25:18 AM
I think we also explored the situation further in that if the charging SUG was intercepted or countercharged  then it had to go through with the charge and subsequent destruction.
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: lionheartrjc on May 25, 2019, 10:17:26 AM
An intercept or countercharge doesn't cancel the charge.  Charging SuGs stop 1BW short of TuGs (unless the TuG is within 1 skull of breaking - the "finishing off" move) and this would include intercepts or counterchargers.

Richard
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: craig.w on May 26, 2019, 06:14:06 AM
It's in the clarries:

CHARGING SUGs THAT WOULD HIT TuGs
It is not intended that SuGs charge TuGs except when a TuG is near breaking. When a SuG charges another SuG, and after opponents Run Away/Skirmish the charger would reach an enemy TuG, then it stops 1BW from it unless the TuG is within 1 base of breaking.

SuGs that have declared a charge hit by TuGs
Charging SuGs or Flexible TuGs in skirmish order that have declared a charge cannot  run away or skirmish. If contacted by a TuG during the charge phase in open terrain a SuG is automatically destroyed, flexible TuGs fight in skirmish order.
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: lionheartrjc on May 26, 2019, 07:38:54 AM
Thanks Craig - I hadn't spotted the later bit.

Richard
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: stuuk on May 26, 2019, 08:53:39 AM
Good spot! thanks. Now to add to my rule book so I don't ask again in six months.
Title: Re: Charging SuG - evade?
Post by: Simon Meg-Meister on May 30, 2019, 07:35:49 AM
All being folded into the vs 2 book ...
I think Jan timing is perfect now as one or two little issues coming up as the comp pros spot little cracks in wording or rules.
Sweeping up gradually.  Once I can type properly - 6 more weeks of hand splints - I can tuck un and get it sorted.

Si