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Mortem et Gloriam Army Lists => List Queries => Topic started by: Princeps on November 21, 2025, 08:48:43 PM

Title: Egyptian XXI Dynasty
Post by: Princeps on November 21, 2025, 08:48:43 PM
HEllo,


The XXI Dynasty (first of the IIIrd Intermediate period, approx. 1069 - 945 BCE) is covered by neither New Kingdom Egyptian 1208 (1550-1069 BCE) or Libyan Egyptian 1309 (945-720 BCE).

Disregarding the most likely answer being me unable to read (sorry Nik, no RTFM ^^), how could I cover that period ?

Best,
Antoine
Title: Re: Egyptian XXI Dynasty
Post by: nikgaukroger on June 09, 2026, 06:23:55 PM
Spotted a question that had not been answered (possibly as it was in another part of the forum, but better here so moved it).

Here are some thoughts I had on this a couple of years ago, but didn't result in anything changing:


For some reason (well, probably due to the DBx list dates) the 21st dynasty is not covered by any army list - there is a gap between 1069 BCE and 945 BCE. Whilst hardly world shattering I think we can easily close this if we want to.

After a civil war at the end of the 20th dynasty royal power was diminished and the generals and high priest of Amun appropriated much of this - especially the latter in upper Egypt. The weakened rulers formed the 21st dynasty.

By this stage the army was heavily reliant on Libyans, many of whom had been settled as military colonists during the late 20th dynasty following the reign of Ramesses III. In the end, in 945 BCE leaders of these Libyans took over and formed the 22nd dynasty.

The whole period of the 21st and 22nd dynasties was one of decentralised power, especially during the 22nd dynasty following the rule of its first king, Sheshonq (945 to 924 BCE).


Personally I'd make the following changes to the Libyan Egyptian list to cover the gap.

Change start date to 1068 BCE.

Make all generals Instinctive.

Before 923 BCE allow 2 sub-generals.
Title: Re: Egyptian XXI Dynasty
Post by: Princeps on June 10, 2026, 04:31:52 PM
Thanks Nik