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Mortem et Gloriam Players forum => Player Discussion => Topic started by: badhabum on October 05, 2025, 07:30:58 PM

Title: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: badhabum on October 05, 2025, 07:30:58 PM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Limit deployment of close order infantry to the center  area and protected flanks only  ?  Add KAB test for TUGs close order moving and fighting in the "forbidden area"

Aim is to have a more historical feeling when deploying , the flanks being secured by cavalry and the cavalry armies having space to manoeuver .                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
         
   

         
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: martymagnificent on October 06, 2025, 12:24:40 AM
Are cavalry armies struggling? Why would this be necessary?

It is a very artificial restriction I have always disliked in games. I can kind of accept it in ReG but see little to no reason for it in MeG (which already has a limited version of it)

Martin
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: lionheartrjc on October 06, 2025, 08:38:14 AM
In effect you are saying expand the flank restricted zone from 5 BW to 10 BW for close infantry.

I would question the need for this change.
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 06, 2025, 09:55:12 AM
Quote from: martymagnificent on October 06, 2025, 12:24:40 AMAre cavalry armies struggling?

Not really IMO.

Personally I see no reason for a change here.
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: badhabum on October 07, 2025, 08:33:41 PM
HISTORY is a reason leave space of the flank for cavalry to manoeuver around the flank .  :)
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: Glactophagos on October 08, 2025, 09:36:23 AM
It would help to to stop people from diging in and turning a battle into a siege.
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: badhabum on October 08, 2025, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: Glactophagos on October 08, 2025, 09:36:23 AMIt would help to to stop people from diging in and turning a battle into a siege.

I had overlooked that aspect. A protected flank will remain a protected flank but without it creating a fortress will be much more difficult indeed .
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: LawrenceG on October 10, 2025, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Glactophagos on October 08, 2025, 09:36:23 AMIt would help to to stop people from diging in and turning a battle into a siege.

"If you're such a good general, come out and fight!"


"If you're such a good general, make me!"
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: Princeps on October 10, 2025, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: LawrenceG on October 10, 2025, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Glactophagos on October 08, 2025, 09:36:23 AMIt would help to to stop people from diging in and turning a battle into a siege.

"If you're such a good general, come out and fight!"


"If you're such a good general, make me!"

Played Ilkhanate last tournament and faced a Medieval Portuguese with 24 bases of XBows with Barricades. He used 3x6 to form an 18-wide line, and 1x6 to get another line that closed the flank, and anchored the other flank on a marsh he placed. Please tell me how your quip would have helped the situation ;)


On another note, I quite like this, and it would give the Foot generals something to use the good cards of PBS other than keep them for OS, as this would not apply on a proteted  flank (if I read correctly).

Best,
Antoine
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: nikgaukroger on October 10, 2025, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: Princeps on October 10, 2025, 01:48:29 PMPlayed Ilkhanate last tournament and faced a Medieval Portuguese with 24 bases of XBows with Barricades. He used 3x6 to form an 18-wide line, and 1x6 to get another line that closed the flank, and anchored the other flank on a marsh he placed.

Which restricting where Close formation troops can deploy would not have affected at all.


QuoteOn another note, I quite like this, and it would give the Foot generals something to use the good cards of PBS other than keep them for OS,

Worth remembering that the proposals include no longer allow PBS cards to be held over for use in scouting.
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: Princeps on October 10, 2025, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: nikgaukroger on October 10, 2025, 02:21:53 PMWhich restricting where Close formation troops can deploy would not have affected at all.
No it would not, but that was meant as an answer to Lawrence's comment, not the proposal

Quote
QuoteOn another note, I quite like this, and it would give the Foot generals something to use the good cards of PBS other than keep them for OS,
Worth remembering that the proposals include no longer allow PBS cards to be held over for use in scouting.
I remember that very well, hence my comment that those extra PBS would not, as some say, go to waste ... :)
Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: badhabum on October 10, 2025, 02:57:42 PM
OK some people do oppose the idea but it seems no one can really say why he disagrees.

My opinion is that it forces a more historically minded deployment, heavies in the center , cavalry and auxilliaries on the flank

What's wrong with that ?



Title: Re: Belgian proposal three Close infantry limited deployment zone
Post by: lionheartrjc on October 11, 2025, 07:42:13 AM
This topic discussion is no longer constructive and has been locked.  The idea has been noted - but is not being adopted for the amendments this year.