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Title: Treat as Good Going
Post by: daveparish on November 03, 2024, 09:22:01 AM
The Terrain Table has some entries for rough terrain that say "Camels and Elephants treat as Good Going". I thought I understood this but a discussion at a recent comp made me doubt myself so here are a couple of questions:-

1) An elephant TUG is moving through Brush, does it go 3BW (the speed for Rough) or 4BW (the speed for Good going)

2) A camel TUG charges a Loose infantry TUG in Brush. Does it get the +1 claim for Cm in Good Going vs Loose foot (because it counts good going) or not (because the infantry counts Rough)

Thanks in advance for any guidance!
Title: Re: Treat as Good Going
Post by: badhabum on November 03, 2024, 10:46:10 AM
I'll give it a try

1) Elephants move as in good going so 4 BW

2 ) the attacking TUG is considered to be in the open so attacks it's opponent in the open and get's the +1 . If defending it would be the same it is in the open so get's the initial +1 as well
Title: Re: Treat as Good Going
Post by: daveparish on November 04, 2024, 09:36:28 AM
Any other views?

(I asked the question because I was told an umpire had ruled the answer to the first question was 3BW not 4BW, which surprised me)
Title: Re: Treat as Good Going
Post by: lionheartrjc on November 04, 2024, 10:16:25 AM
1) Moves 4 BW.
2) Gets the +1 claim.

I am fed up with the number of times I get told that an umpire ruled it another way (not this specific example, just generally). Anyone says it to me while I am umpiring, I immediately rule against them on general principles....  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Richard
Title: Re: Treat as Good Going
Post by: tarnowski1 on November 04, 2024, 10:20:50 AM
Quote from: lionheartrjc on November 04, 2024, 10:16:25 AM
1) Moves 4 BW.
2) Gets the +1 claim.

I am fed up with the number of times I get told that an umpire ruled it another way (not this specific example, just generally). Anyone says it to me while I am umpiring, I immediately rule against them on general principles....  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Richard

got it, reverse the question , claim an umpire told me and so get it ruled in my favour  ;) :)
Title: Re: Treat as Good Going
Post by: daveparish on November 04, 2024, 10:24:00 AM
That's why I asked it as a neutral question to start with!
I realise that it was even worse in this case - a second hand report of what an unknown umpire said! I added the detail because I didn't get much response initially.
Thanks for your answer  :)
Title: Re: Treat as Good Going
Post by: Jilu on November 23, 2024, 05:30:49 PM
Anyway, umpires are human beings, they make mistakes too