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Author's Section => Rules Queries and Clarifications => Topic started by: tarnowski1 on July 09, 2024, 10:13:00 AM

Title: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: tarnowski1 on July 09, 2024, 10:13:00 AM
can you simultaneously reveal multiple ambush cards and , assuming, the ambushing ugs all touch each other move them out of ambush as a prompted block?
Title: Re: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: lionheartrjc on July 09, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
No, UGs in ambush do not meet the requirements of a block.

Richard
Title: Re: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: steads on July 09, 2024, 02:16:11 PM
Told you ::)
Title: Re: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: tarnowski1 on July 09, 2024, 05:54:29 PM
Quote from: lionheartrjc on July 09, 2024, 01:27:00 PM
No, UGs in ambush do not meet the requirements of a block.

Richard

how not so?

'1.
. Ambushes may only be revealed:
1.1 When any enemy UG comes within range to see them (bluffs are treated as skirmish infantry).
1.2 Immediately before they charge or move.
1.3 Immediately before they shoot.'

1.2 seems to cover a block move of ambushes. I'm paying the card to move them as a black so revealing them simultaneously? An enemy ug could reveal  all three ambush cards and I could deploy them touching and immediately move them as a block
Title: Re: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: nikgaukroger on July 09, 2024, 06:02:02 PM
FWIW I've previously allowed a block move from ambush when asked on the basis Matt mentions.

Only happened once that I can recall and obviously is not precedent  8)
Title: Re: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: lionheartrjc on July 09, 2024, 06:30:21 PM
On reflection, ambushes are revealed before they charge or move.

So if they are deployed meeting the conditions of the block I guess it would be okay.  Note: unless charging at least one UG will be considered out of command so an additional COLOURED card will be required, in addition to the COLOURED card for the block. 

Note that the requirement when revealing an ambush is to deploy as many bases as possible on the ambush card (it doesn't say entirely on the card).  This may prevent creating a block of three UGs together (depending on the size of the bases in ambush).

Or am I missing something?

Richard
Title: Re: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: lionheartrjc on July 09, 2024, 06:30:51 PM
Would benefit from a clarification anyway....

Richard
Title: Re: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: Jilu on July 10, 2024, 04:29:53 AM
Quote from: lionheartrjc on July 09, 2024, 06:30:21 PM
On reflection, ambushes are revealed before they charge or move.

So if they are deployed meeting the conditions of the block I guess it would be okay.  Note: unless charging at least one UG will be considered out of command so an additional COLOURED card will be required, in addition to the COLOURED card for the block. 

Note that the requirement when revealing an ambush is to deploy as many bases as possible on the ambush card (it doesn't say entirely on the card).  This may prevent creating a block of three UGs together (depending on the size of the bases in ambush).

Or am I missing something?

Richard

you can use the 3 ambush cards close to each other,why unless charging would at least one UG be out of command?
Title: Re: block moving ambushes, possible?
Post by: lionheartrjc on July 10, 2024, 06:10:09 AM
Quote from: Jilu on July 10, 2024, 04:29:53 AM
you can use the 3 ambush cards close to each other,why unless charging would at least one UG be out of command?

Because unless charging, any ambush UG without a general is out of command until they have moved (12:A.4 page 116 PDF edition).

Richard