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Pacto and Magna => Pacto => Topic started by: KaiserFranz on June 01, 2024, 08:05:13 PM

Title: Charged in the flank - when is a MF2 action possible and when not?
Post by: KaiserFranz on June 01, 2024, 08:05:13 PM
My cavalry anounced a charge.

Since I was not the active player my enemy made its first charge in that cavalry's flank in SP2.6 as his 1st Action.

Is my cavalry allowed to make a MF2 to face the charger?

Are there situations when this is not possible?

Am I still allowed to charge my original target?

Greets Franz
Title: Re: Charged in the flank - when is a MF2 action possible and when not?
Post by: lionheartrjc on June 03, 2024, 07:07:32 AM
MF2 moves are permitted in the movement phase SP4.3 (which will be after any charge combat) or in the fighting phase SP5.5 (after melee combat).  Check the turn sequence for more details.
They are permitted to any UG that has been contacted from a flank or rear charge and is not in frontal combat.

Your own charge is cancelled as soon as you are contacted by the enemy charge.

So in your example, the enemy cavalry has contacted you in the flank in SP 2.6.  The charge combat will be fought (SP 2.7) and your opponent will have a +4 claim for a flank charge.
In the movement phase (SP 4.3), you can turn to face them.  If you don't then the cavalry will still have a +2 claim for the flank, however having turned they do not get this claim and you may have a claim for a weapon. 

So to summarise:
a) You cannot face the charger until the movement phase.
b) If you are already fighting an opponent to your front, you cannot use an MF2 move.
c) No you cannot charge your original target, if you are contacted by a charge.  The order of charges matters in this situation.

Hope that helps.

(For anyone who plays Maximus or Magna, it is worth noting that the rules in Pacto are different. In Maximus and Magna individual bases can turn, in Pacto the whole UG turns.)

Richard
Title: Re: Charged in the flank - when is a MF2 action possible and when not?
Post by: KaiserFranz on June 03, 2024, 04:27:21 PM
Dear Richard,

thanks for that perfect answer

Greets Franz
Title: Re: Charged in the flank - when is a MF2 action possible and when not?
Post by: Jethreal on June 03, 2024, 06:31:10 PM
Hey Richard!

Does this: "however having turned they do not get this claim and you may have a claim for a weapon"
Mean that UGs charged in the flank/rear don't get weapon/characteristic claims?
Title: Re: Charged in the flank - when is a MF2 action possible and when not?
Post by: lionheartrjc on June 04, 2024, 06:52:03 AM
All preferred claims and some general claims only apply when fighting to front.  The QRS indicates which these are.
UGs charged in flank or rear would still get their claims when fighting to front, but not when fighting to the flank or rear.

Richard
Title: Re: Charged in the flank - when is a MF2 action possible and when not?
Post by: Jethreal on June 04, 2024, 06:58:12 PM
Thanks!

We totally missed that in the QRS.  :P