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Mortem et Gloriam Army Lists => List Queries => Topic started by: Onurbm on February 26, 2024, 09:41:51 AM

Title: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
Post by: Onurbm on February 26, 2024, 09:41:51 AM
He everybody

Is the note in the heads of list 4519 MING Chinese  applicable to allied contingent ? :
« At least 1/3 infantry TUG (excluding Southern auxiliaries) must be downgrade to poor . »

Sorry I did not find anywhere direct statement that it should or should not apply ... anything I find is about « armies » but not « allied contingent ». As I may propose rational for either interpretation , better ask forum .
;)

Richard ? Intend ?


Thanks in advance
Title: Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
Post by: nikgaukroger on February 26, 2024, 09:49:20 AM
Quote from: Onurbm on February 26, 2024, 09:41:51 AM
Is the note in the heads of list 4519 MING Chinese  applicable to allied contingent ? :
« At least 1/3 infantry TUG (excluding Southern auxiliaries) must be downgrade to poor . »

I'd go with yes.
Title: Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
Post by: lionheartrjc on February 26, 2024, 12:43:23 PM
Yes intentional even for allied contingents.

Richard
Title: Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
Post by: Onurbm on February 26, 2024, 09:55:06 PM
Thanks to you both

Now further in same list I read :
Hand gunner formed close …..

I did not find other shooters as « close » so is this correct or should it be loose ?

I agree I am shortsighted and maybe did not read all 2024 lists with appropriate googles … but still , would you confirm / deny ?

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Title: Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
Post by: nikgaukroger on February 29, 2024, 12:24:12 PM
It is deliberate but for the life of me I can't recall why  :o
Title: Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
Post by: lionheartrjc on February 29, 2024, 01:35:04 PM
It is deliberate. The reason was a Chinese source implying they used some sort of volley system of fire to repel cavalry.  The whole loose/close formation is very dodgy in my opinion.

Richard
Title: Re: extracting an allied contingent from Ming Chinese list 4519
Post by: Onurbm on March 02, 2024, 10:16:11 AM

Thanks fine . I will scratch build some nice bases crowded with gun shooters 🧙‍♂️🐯🐲🎋