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Mortem et Gloriam Players forum => Refights and After Action Reports => Topic started by: mad lemmey on March 29, 2019, 10:15:17 PM

Title: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: mad lemmey on March 29, 2019, 10:15:17 PM
Last night's scrap,
I was hopeless...
Correct link added
https://madlemmey.blogspot.com/2019/03/meg-senguko-samurai-vs-rajput-indians.html?m=1
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: badhabum on April 20, 2019, 07:30:24 PM
Are you sure it is the good link
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: mad lemmey on April 20, 2019, 08:23:22 PM
Correct link added
https://madlemmey.blogspot.com/2019/03/meg-senguko-samurai-vs-rajput-indians.html?m=1
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: badhabum on April 21, 2019, 10:28:46 AM
You must have unlucky not to kill the tibetan shaman ! An average unprotected base that must be to the front  . Once dead the whole unit looses the fanatic characteristic  8)

He must have bee protected by some very powerfull magic
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: mad lemmey on April 21, 2019, 12:08:12 PM
He didn't have a Tibetan shaman in that game, he did in the rematch though...
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: badhabum on April 21, 2019, 12:45:22 PM
OK Well the shaman is mandatory if he wants the unit to be fanatic . It must be to the front and if the base dies, the unit looses the fanatic characteristic  8)
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: mad lemmey on April 21, 2019, 09:03:13 PM
Or, you just buy the infantry as fanatic
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: awat03 on April 22, 2019, 05:31:00 AM
 Badhabum is correct. It is in the unit notes at the bottom. If the unit wants to be fanatic, it has to take the fanatic exorcist and he has to be in the front rank. This element activates the fanatic characteristic (paid for by every element in the unit) without needing the general to go to the unit. If the fanatic exorcist element is killed, the unit loses the ability to activate the fanatic characteristic.
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: mad lemmey on April 22, 2019, 08:56:12 AM
Kill the fanatic, the general wanders over and takes his place...
What the fanatic is far more useful for is making the unit Devastating charge, with short spears = +3, which killed my superior long spears with general in one turn, (fanatic green vs white, kills, kills general, causes KaBs, which kills a base, , which takes out a back rank spear, causes shatter, neighbours either side suddenly go red vs white, rolls more skulls, eliminates 1500 points of troops in a phase!)
Good thing the supporting average long spears held, were out of kab range and killed him next charge! Dashed nasty bunch.
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: RocketSix on April 22, 2019, 09:57:51 AM
QuoteKill the fanatic, the general wanders over and takes his place...

nope - If garrison spearmen are given the fanatic characteristic, 1 element must be upgraded to the fanatic exorcist. This element must be placed in the front rank. The unit does not require a general to accompany the unit. The fanatic characteristic is lost if the element is killed.
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: mad lemmey on April 22, 2019, 03:28:25 PM
Useful to know, he didn't last long though, nor did his unit...
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: badhabum on April 23, 2019, 03:52:48 PM
QuoteWhat the fanatic is far more useful for is making the unit Devastating charge

It seems to me it gives only the fanatic characteristic, not devastating charger for all  bases
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: nikgaukroger on April 23, 2019, 05:17:13 PM
Quote from: badhabum on April 23, 2019, 03:52:48 PM
QuoteWhat the fanatic is far more useful for is making the unit Devastating charge

It seems to me it gives only the fanatic characteristic, not devastating charger for all  bases

Agreed - the special rule says nothing about making the other bases in the unit Dev Chargers.
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: nikgaukroger on April 23, 2019, 05:31:56 PM
Also being a single rank of DC it won't get the DC claims IIRC.
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: mad lemmey on April 23, 2019, 05:53:13 PM
But it does give the others shatter...
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: nikgaukroger on April 23, 2019, 06:08:42 PM
In that if it rolls Skull/S the neighbouring files get the +2 as opposed to being able to cause a Shatter themselves.

To be honest it looks a bit of a rubbish option to me - face anything with missiles and they'll look to target the Unprotected base to remove the Fanatic ability.
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: mad lemmey on April 23, 2019, 06:49:58 PM
So, what is the point of it?
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: badhabum on April 23, 2019, 07:24:18 PM
That is the good question ....
Title: Re: Senguko Samurai vs Rajput Indian with Tibetan allies
Post by: RocketSix on April 23, 2019, 08:01:55 PM
QuoteTo be honest it looks a bit of a rubbish option to me - face anything with missiles and they'll look to target the Unprotected base to remove the Fanatic ability.

From more than 1BW away , assuming there are no covering skirmishers