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Mortem et Gloriam Army Lists => List Queries => Topic started by: Princeps on March 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM

Title: Post-classical Mayans – 6209 – Military Order Nobles
Post by: Princeps on March 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Hello,

One of the mandatory units is the Military Order Nobles (8-16 bases, in TUGs of 4 or 6 bases).

From 1300 CE, one can choose to replace all of them with Regrade Military Order Nobles (in TUGs of 6 or 8 bases).

The two profiles are interesting (one being Javelin S&C ; the other DC), but the difference in unit size could make the shooting ones much less desirable.

Now I do not claim to have read all lists, but I do not remember reading a list where a regrade/upgrade led to a change in UG size. That and the size of the Lesser Nobles TUG in the list (6 or 8 bases as well, whether regraded or not) makes me wonder if this difference might be unintended.

Best regards,
Antoine
Title: Re: Post-classical Mayans – 6209 – Military Order Nobles
Post by: badhabum on March 19, 2023, 09:32:07 AM
Any answers ?
Is the TUG size modified when upgrading ?
Title: Re: Post-classical Mayans – 6209 – Military Order Nobles
Post by: Administrator on March 19, 2023, 06:56:32 PM
post-classical Mayan warfare is defined by the disappearance of large territorial states in the Lowlands. The main reasons to go to war were to establish a tributary system where the losing region is indebted to the victor. Most later Mayan warfare was extended raiding. As a result fighting was more desperate, rather than traditional pitched battles. Grading the this way in the later period represents nobles operating in larger war-parties than in earlier times.
Title: Re: Post-classical Mayans – 6209 – Military Order Nobles
Post by: badhabum on March 19, 2023, 07:17:38 PM
Interesting
Title: Re: Post-classical Mayans – 6209 – Military Order Nobles
Post by: Princeps on March 22, 2023, 06:34:15 PM
Quote from: Administrator on March 19, 2023, 06:56:32 PM
post-classical Mayan warfare is defined by the disappearance of large territorial states in the Lowlands. The main reasons to go to war were to establish a tributary system where the losing region is indebted to the victor. Most later Mayan warfare was extended raiding. As a result fighting was more desperate, rather than traditional pitched battles. Grading the this way in the later period represents nobles operating in larger war-parties than in earlier times.

Thank you for the answer. Not sure it makes both options equally appealing post 1300, but it has a reason.

Have a nice day,
Antoine